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What Really Happened on AirTrans Flight 297?
KHOU News Houston ^ | November 18, 2009 | AP

Posted on 12/03/2009 7:15:46 AM PST by Sequoyah101

This squib appeared on the KHOU website on November 18 but is seems to be only a fraction of the story. Read the comments below the story please.

ATLANTA -- AirTran Airways says a flight from Atlanta to Houston with more than 70 passengers on board was delayed when a passenger refused to end a cell phone call.

... Flight 297, a Boeing 717, was taxiing on the runway in Atlanta Tuesday afternoon when a crew member asked a passenger to turn off his phone.

... after several failed attempts by the crew member to end the conversation, the captain returned the plane to the gate.

... the passenger complied when he was asked to get off the plane. He says no charges were filed, and that the plane departed for Houston 2 ½ hours later.

(Excerpt) Read more at khou.com ...


TOPICS: Local News; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: airlines; airtranflight297; airtransflight297; coverup; flight297; muslimswantapayday; terrorism; tsa
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To: Sequoyah101

I cannot see the plane waiting for the muslims’ search given aggressive passenger behavior which clearly eclipsed the standard of the lawsuit some airline recently lost about praying muslims thrown off.


21 posted on 12/03/2009 7:38:49 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: brytlea

Read this as well.


22 posted on 12/03/2009 7:38:57 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: Sequoyah101

I don’t know if this story is true, but it’s amazing how quick many people are to pooh pooh this stuff. How many people see something suspicious but keep their mouths shut because they think they will just be called nutcases?


23 posted on 12/03/2009 7:40:50 AM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Sequoyah101
First: Check the basic facts.

The equipment for this flight is a Boeing 717. There are at least two floor plans for the B-717: A one-class layout, and a two-class layout. The two class layout shows 8 "high class" seats (two rows) in the forward cabin, followed by a bulkhead, followed by the coach section. Attempting to book a seat on this flight at airtran-dot-com gave me the choice of coach class or business class. So AirTran seems to use the two-class layout. This is consistent with the story.

FWIW.

24 posted on 12/03/2009 7:45:38 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Sequoyah101

Arabs, particularly the traditional ones, become very strange in groups. It’s a pack-mentality. I was on a flight outside of US where similar things happened. A few of the group were making outrageous demands / were out of control, and the polite Asian stewardesses were simply out of their depth dealing with those thugs. One of the group was clearly the “alpha male” and the others with him therefore seemed required to follow him. It didn’t get resolved until armed security showed up on the plane.


25 posted on 12/03/2009 7:52:45 AM PST by PGR88
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To: brytlea

Yeah, the response here surprises me as well. The story seems to be becoming corroborated. I asked my notifying source where it came from and have not heard back but his contacts spread pretty far and I would not be surprised to know he or someone he knows, knows someone on the flight.

There were 5 crew and 73 - ll = 71 non-arab passengers on the flight who know at least some of what actually happened.

IMO authorities are so prone to seeking prosecution of the right doers (seals, marines, etc.) and we have become so politically correct and so self-conscious about being sued by someone for something that we have become silent. How would you like to have CAIR suing you on behalf of some raghead for some perceived offense. Who knows, someone may have gotten a busted lip?

We have become paralyzed by our new version of freedom, equality, rights and whatever to the point we can’t protect ourselves and the enemy is laughing at us.


26 posted on 12/03/2009 7:53:53 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: Sequoyah101

I call BS


27 posted on 12/03/2009 7:55:38 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Sequoyah101
And no charges were filed against the raghead trouble-makers? Incredible!

Thanks for posting the real story.

28 posted on 12/03/2009 8:00:28 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Pork Eating CRUSADER - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Sequoyah101

Whether this incident is true or not is not the point. With the Ft. Hood shootings it is obvious that political correctness and a pre 9-11 mentality by the administration will allow a major terrorist incident to occur in the not too distant future. Maybe then we will wake up to the threat within our own borders.


29 posted on 12/03/2009 8:12:18 AM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: Quix; DvdMom

*ping* - already posted over here


30 posted on 12/03/2009 8:15:23 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

THANKS THANKS.


31 posted on 12/03/2009 8:17:31 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Here is how I feel about these types of stories.... Man up and kick the ever living shit out of any towel head who dares to act up on your flight. Beat him, her and whoever else they are with. If I am on your flight, you can bet that I will assist you if you act before I do.


32 posted on 12/03/2009 8:19:53 AM PST by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: Quix
See number 24.

I'm not saying it happened just so. But I can't find any technical flaws in the tale.

33 posted on 12/03/2009 8:21:04 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: coon2000

It would be a pleasure to pound on them with you.


34 posted on 12/03/2009 8:22:22 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Pork Eating CRUSADER - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Sequoyah101
There were 5 crew and 73 - ll = 71 non-arab passengers on the flight who know at least some of what actually happened.

I wonder if any of them have anything to say.

35 posted on 12/03/2009 8:24:17 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Sequoyah101

Here’s my thread from last night. Interesting comments.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2399016/posts


36 posted on 12/03/2009 8:28:56 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: BenLurkin
The details are too good to be true and make it very internetty. "11 Muslim men got on the plane in full attire." 9/11 reference? Full attire? "2 sat in 1st class and the rest peppered themselves throughout the plane all the way to the back" If he was sitting in first class, how could he tell they peppered themselves throughout coach? Can he see through the bulkhead/curtain? "and proceeded to talk on the phone in Arabic very loudly and very aggressively" Loudly and aggressively? Its too perfect. 2 younger Muslims began to show footage of a porno they had taped the night before Bullcrap. How does this guy know they filmed it the night before? There's too much detail. To which one of the men said “shut up infidel dog!” Riiiiiight.
37 posted on 12/03/2009 8:29:04 AM PST by Karma Police (Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!!!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Good! I’ll do it on my own, but I am glad there is another American out there who does not give a crap about how the liberal pc crowd would react.

Don’t tread on me!

Remember the Alamo!


38 posted on 12/03/2009 8:35:35 AM PST by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: hennie pennie; Godzilla; Old Sarge; judicial meanz; Border Enforcer; Mossad1967; Cindy; ...
Maybe this article is a hoax?

I don't think so. I got an e-mail at my home with the whole story above yesterday and I was told that the person relating the story who was there is actually a freeper in good standing. No, I think it's a probe and our complacence is about to be tested. While the airline industry remains at threat level Orange and the rest of us are supposedly on Yellow, the reality is we've pretty much all sunk back to pre-911 levels of readiness. We're facing a deadly enemy and he learns from the past (unlike us).

Notice the new arrangement of attackers. Before there were 3 to 5 attackers and they tended to congregate closer together. Now they've upped the number to eleven and placed them strategically and tactically throughout the aircraft. They KNOW that it's almost certain we'll fight back. For them, it's okay. They'll just respond in kind. I suspect they (AQ) may be having more difficulty in securing a nuke to use on us and the airplane attack offers the same bang for the buck, especially if you seize more planes with more high density (in terms of population) targets. They could go after huge malls in the height of the holiday shopping season. They could target the bowl games and I have a thousand ideas but I'd rather not give them any more hints. I'm sure they lurk here on FR.

As for calling BS or referring to it as being ummm internetty, I would remind those folks that the 911 plot would also have been labeled such on September 10th 2001.

39 posted on 12/03/2009 9:44:55 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Karma Police
Can he see through the bulkhead/curtain?

The curtain is not closed until after takeoff. Sometimes, it isn't closed at all.

40 posted on 12/03/2009 9:47:31 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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