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102,000 See Navy Beat Army, 10-0, On Fog-Bound Field; USC-Washington, (12/3/39)
Microfiche-New York Times archives, McHenry Library, U.C. Santa Cruz | 12/3/39 | Allison Danzig, John Kieran

Posted on 12/03/2009 4:34:03 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History; Sports
KEYWORDS: football; milhist; realtime; trojans; usc; worldwarii
Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime”.)
To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile.
1 posted on 12/03/2009 4:34:04 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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2 posted on 12/03/2009 4:35:16 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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What became of the men who played in the Army-Navy game? How many didn’t survive the war?

So this game was played in rain & fog. It must have been absolutely miserable. Rain games I’ve attended, but not when the fog obstructs the ability to see the field. I recall there was a playoff game between the Eagles and the Bears about 15 or 20 years ago when that happened. The TV cameras could not see a thing. They tried showing the game from above; the field was just a sea of white. They tried showing the game from the sideline; the camera couldn’t pick up anything as far as the middle of the field.

It’ funny to see the scores and “rivalries.” Undefeated Tulane defeating LSU? Not gonna happen today. Stanford plays Dartmouth? I’m sure Jimmy Harbaugh would love to see Dartmouth on his schedule for an early season tune-up. But some trends began long ago remain to this day; USC winning the Pacific Coast Conference, headed to the Rose Bowl. However, in those days the Big 10 could actually win the game.


3 posted on 12/03/2009 7:12:55 AM PST by henkster (0bamanomics: The "Final Solution" to America's "Prosperity Question.")
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What became of the men who played in the Army-Navy game? How many didn’t survive the war?

I wondered about that last year at the time of the '38 Army-Navy game. I hoped someone had already asked and answered the question in the form of an internet posting, but if they did I couldn't find it.

4 posted on 12/03/2009 7:17:31 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Might be of interest.


5 posted on 12/04/2009 7:09:38 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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Ping!


6 posted on 12/04/2009 8:08:37 AM PST by GOP_Raider (You can now check out GOP_Raider on Twitter at twitter.com/RaiderUte)
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Very cool, thanks. I googled that era for additional NCAA football info and Wiki provide the following:

The 1939 college football season concluded with the Aggies of The Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas being named as the national champions by the voters in the Associated Press writers' poll.

The Volunteers of the University of Tennessee were unbeaten and untied, and unscored upon, shutting out all of their opponents in ten games; but for the second straight year, they finished second in the poll.

The final AP Poll in this era came out before postseason bowl games and, in the 1940 Rose Bowl, the Volunteers were unable to hold everyone scoreless, with the University of Southern California registering two touchdowns and beating them 14-0. As a consequence, the Dickinson System named USC, which had been ranked No. 3 in the final AP Poll before the bowl games, the national champion. As a result USC Trojans claims a share of the 1939 title.

Thanks again for the ping

7 posted on 12/04/2009 8:25:42 AM PST by Bad~Rodeo (Defensor Fortis)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
I was wondering how you got your hands on the 1939 New York Times article. I would love to find the previous years' game (1938) as my dad attended that game on his 12th birthday! Any advice getting any information on that particular game would be greatly appreciated!!
8 posted on 12/13/2009 7:28:20 AM PST by biss5577
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I was wondering how you got your hands on the 1939 New York Times article. I would love to find the previous years' game (1938) as my dad attended that game on his 12th birthday! Any advice getting any information on that particular game would be greatly appreciated!!

I didn't exactly get my hands on the paper, just a photograph of it. But we got history, baby! Happy 83rd to your dad, with my compliments.

1938 Army-Navy game

9 posted on 12/13/2009 7:57:06 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Thank you, so very much!! I will print and mail it to him asap. He was in the Army right after the WWII stationed in Germany. He wrote his journal several years ago about his experiences (hand written) and it’s a wonderful read. This will mean so much to him! Thank you again!


10 posted on 12/13/2009 12:23:08 PM PST by biss5577
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