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Need help with Firewire on XP SP 3
11-14-2209 | raybbr

Posted on 11/14/2009 6:50:58 AM PST by raybbr

This is a test. A test of the brilliance, perseverance and perspicacity of the tech gurus here on FR.

Whoever gets me working again will get a $20 donation to FR in his/her name.

I have a box I built about two years ago that has Windows XP SP3 on it.

I used to be able to hook up my Canon ZR80 camcorder to it and capture video. I have used Pinnacle's Studio 9 and also Windows Movie Maker.

I haven't tried to capture video in a while and yesterday, well, you guessed it. It wouldn't work. My PC will not detect my camera. I have no other firewire devices to test the cable but I don't think that's the problem because there are other people out there with this problem.

I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling my firewire card. I have tried everything I can think of it will not work.

I have since tried rolling back to SP2. Still no good.

In PC Wizard the info for the Firewire card is as follows:

Bus Information #4 : Device : FW322/323 IEEE1394 OHCI FireWire Controller Device : RT8139 (A/B/C/810x/813x/C+) Fast Ethernet Adapter

The device comes up good in Device Manager.

During my searches I have come across many instances in many forums about this very problem. Apparently the new drivers in SP2 and SP2 create problems in detecting firewire devices. Not all just some.

Microsoft has no fix to this that I can find. Canon does not supply drivers for that camcorder anymore.

My wife taped some things on her vacation with our sons that we want to capture but I cannot.

I tried reloading Pinnacle last night but it still doesn't work.

I am hoping there is someone in FR tech land that can help me.

Thanks your your time.

Oh, and you Mac guys, keep the bashing to a minimum. As they say, "If you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem."


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: firewire; sp3
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1 posted on 11/14/2009 6:51:00 AM PST by raybbr
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To: ShadowAce; papasmurf; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Help!


2 posted on 11/14/2009 6:51:44 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: raybbr

Did you try all your USB ports?


3 posted on 11/14/2009 6:53:19 AM PST by library user
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To: raybbr

Did you try doing a “system restore” to an earlier date yet?


4 posted on 11/14/2009 6:56:37 AM PST by ILS21R
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To: raybbr

Don’t worry. Many of us will never buy a Mac after their insulting “I’m cooler than you” commercials. They can go be cool all they want, but not with my money.


5 posted on 11/14/2009 6:59:46 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is..." - Milton)
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To: raybbr
Try restarting your pc with the device attached and the power on to the video camera.

If that doesn't work. Check your manufacturers website for updated drivers. Download the latest drivers.

Uninstall the device from device manager.

Download Revo uninstaller and run it to see if your device is shown in the list. If so use Revo to remove it.

Shut down your PC. Remove the firewire card.

Restart your PC. Shutdown again after rebooting and making sure that no 1394 anything is shown (check network connections)

Re-install your card in a different slot if possible. Restart. Do not allow automatic installation. Install using the new drivers you downloaded.

6 posted on 11/14/2009 7:03:07 AM PST by johncatl (...governs least, governs best.)
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To: library user
Did you try all your USB ports?

It's Firewire not USB.

7 posted on 11/14/2009 7:04:18 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: johncatl

Revo Uninstaller rules. Good suggestion. I used Your Uninstaller for a long time, until I found Revo Uninstaller.


8 posted on 11/14/2009 7:04:57 AM PST by library user
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To: raybbr

Try uninstalling the card/drivers from Device Manager while in Safe Mode, and then reinstall them after booting. Sometimes there will be multiple entries that will ONLY show up in Device Manager while in Safe Mode. It may have looked like it was uninstalled before, but it really wasn’t.


9 posted on 11/14/2009 7:05:09 AM PST by thatdewd (2010 is coming soon...and THEY know it! THEY are afraid.)
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To: johncatl

Did all of that. I don’t know how to stop XP from automatically loading the drivers. There are no drivers available from Canon for the camcorder.


10 posted on 11/14/2009 7:05:34 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: ez

Try bringing up movie maker as if the device has been recognized and do a capture anyway. The device manager may see it but not pop up a dialogue that asks what you want to do. Instead of waiting for a dialogue when you plug in the firewire, just assume the OS sees it and start a capture anyway from an already started movie maker or your favorite capture program manually.


11 posted on 11/14/2009 7:07:27 AM PST by lurked_for_a_decade
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To: raybbr
There are no drivers available from Canon for the camcorder.

Did you check the Canon website for drivers?

12 posted on 11/14/2009 7:07:43 AM PST by library user
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To: lurked_for_a_decade
Try bringing up movie maker as if the device has been recognized and do a capture anyway. The device manager may see it but not pop up a dialogue that asks what you want to do. Instead of waiting for a dialogue when you plug in the firewire, just assume the OS sees it and start a capture anyway from an already started movie maker or your favorite capture program manually.

I tried that. When I click on capture it says, "Video capture device not detected...."

The PC is not recognizing the camera. I know it's driver related problem. In the many forums I lurked yesterday there seems to be no solution.

There is this that I forgot to include in the thread post:

Just incase anyone is reading this , i have it working now. Had to
work the SP1 Firewire drivers in.


Go to C:\WINDOWS\Driver Cache\i386 in the sp1 cab copy out the
following files

1394bus.sys
arp1394.sys
nic1394.sys
ohci1394.sys

replace the new versions of them in the C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllcache
and C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers

reboot

this should fix it.

Thanks to adam in MS Forums From here.

I can't change the drivers without XP automatically reverting them.

13 posted on 11/14/2009 7:14:41 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: library user
Did you check the Canon website for drivers?

Yes.

Isn't that sort of like asking me if I'm logged in? 8^)

14 posted on 11/14/2009 7:15:52 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: raybbr

There’s no drivers. You’re right. I just checked.


15 posted on 11/14/2009 7:16:53 AM PST by library user
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To: raybbr

Save your time and effort, upgrade to Windows 7. You will be a lot happier in the long run.


16 posted on 11/14/2009 7:17:01 AM PST by Pheaedrus (Looking forward to 12/21/2012)
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To: raybbr
Do you still have the manual? If not, you can download it here. Maybe the manual can shine some light on this, not sure.
17 posted on 11/14/2009 7:20:16 AM PST by library user
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To: library user

Thanks, I actually still have the manual. I also dl’ed the .pdf and it doesn’t really help.


18 posted on 11/14/2009 7:22:07 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: raybbr
I mean here.
19 posted on 11/14/2009 7:22:14 AM PST by library user
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Very Interesting..

I have several videos ready to add the finishing touches, but,...

both my USB Capture devices suddenly quit in the last 2 weeks after working for years,

and neither of the PCs are connected to the web,

no updates, file transfers, none.. have tried everything but an exorcist..

BTW, both use Studio 8 upgraded to 9.4.3

hummmm.. tin foil hat time...

will remove Pinnacle studio , back date 1 year and reinstall...

it's got to work better than it does now..

20 posted on 11/14/2009 7:24:27 AM PST by Eagle50AE (Pray for our Armed Forces.)
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