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Mormons throw support behind gay-rights cause
hostednews/ ^ | 3 hours ago | ERIC GORSKI

Posted on 11/11/2009 5:48:28 PM PST by JoeProBono

It looked like a stunning reversal: the same church that helped defeat gay marriage in California standing with gay-rights activists on an anti-discrimination law in its own backyard. On Tuesday night, after a series of clandestine meetings between local gay-rights backers and Mormons in Salt Lake City, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints announced it would support proposed city laws that would prohibit discrimination against gays in housing and employment.

The ordinances passed and history was made: It marked the first time the Salt Lake City-based church had supported gay-rights legislation.

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TOPICS: Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: activists; antidiscrimination; discrimination; gayrights; homosexualagenda; latterdaysaints; mormons; saltlakecity
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1 posted on 11/11/2009 5:48:34 PM PST by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

“support proposed city laws that would prohibit discrimination against gays in housing and employment.”

These are federal laws already. Why the heck do they need
city laws?


2 posted on 11/11/2009 5:52:26 PM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: JoeProBono

Shameful act by Mormons. What if a Mormon landlord refuses to rent to two lesbians? This would be considered criminal discrimination under the law favored by Mormons. This has occurred in California where a Christian woman landlord was found guilty of violating CA’s anti-discrimination law on renting to gays even though her basis was that she was compelled by religious belief.


3 posted on 11/11/2009 5:52:47 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: JoeProBono

Giving in to terror is never a good idea. I have a feeling these people are just doing this because they are afraid after their churches were burned down after Prop 8.


4 posted on 11/11/2009 5:53:09 PM PST by Minus_The_Bear
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To: JoeProBono

Shameful act by Mormons. What if a Mormon landlord refuses to rent to two lesbians? This would be considered criminal discrimination under the law favored by Mormons. This has occurred in California where a Christian woman landlord was found guilty of violating CA’s anti-discrimination law on renting to gays even though her basis was that she was compelled by religious belief.


5 posted on 11/11/2009 5:53:11 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: JoeProBono

Does this mean they’re getting behind gays? A welcomed move I’m sure.


6 posted on 11/11/2009 5:56:37 PM PST by optiguy (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.----- Ronald Reagan)
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To: JoeProBono

Gay laws are the least of our problems. I mean... do you really care about the gays? They are harmless. The Mormon’s sold out...but let’s focus on the communists in DC. We can address the gay issues once we clean up the government.


7 posted on 11/11/2009 5:57:23 PM PST by nagdt ("speak the truth but leave immediately afterward")
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Gay Rights Friendly Mormons?

They must get the extra-special underwear.
8 posted on 11/11/2009 6:01:28 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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9 posted on 11/11/2009 6:06:40 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: 1776 Reborn

go figure....they will be for gay marriage next i guess


12 posted on 11/11/2009 6:12:25 PM PST by dalebert
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"One issue I want to clarify concerns President Clinton’s “don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t pursue” military policy. I believe that the Clinton compromise was a step in the right direction. I am also convinced that it is the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nation’s military. That goal will only be reached when preventing discrimination against gays and lesbians is a mainstream concern, which is a goal we share."
Sincerely, W. Mitt Romney

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13 posted on 11/11/2009 6:19:51 PM PST by ansel12 (Scozzafava/Romney 2012)
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Gay laws are the least of our problems. I mean... do you really care about the gays?

Yes. I care a great deal about my homosexual family members and friends. I care that they are wounded people who are enslaved to a sinful act. I also care about the damage to marriage and family that widespread acceptance of the so-called homosexual lifestyle causes.

That being said, the fact that many of my fellow Christians get so fired up over faggotry puzzles me. Yes, homosexuality is a filthy, antisocial vice, but it's a helluva lot less damaging to society than divorce. Our Lord never mentioned sodomy by name, but He forbade divorce and remarriage specifically and in no uncertain terms. Yet most of the "Christian" people who castigate the homos for being immoral think it's perfectly okay to make a mockery of the God-given Sacrament of Marriage by marrying and divorcing and remarrying.

I'm against "gay marriage", but my fellow Christians who believe in divorce and remarriage are just as guilty of destroying the institution of marriage as the swishiest Mr. & Mr. in Massachusetts.

I'd rather my boy be a flaming faggot than the kind of "straight man" who would dump his wife like garbage.

14 posted on 11/11/2009 6:33:03 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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I don't see how this is an endorsement of gay behavior. Didn't the Lord set the example here?

27 ¶ And after these things he went forth, and saw a publican, named Levi, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he said unto him, Follow me.
28 And he left all, rose up, and followed him.
29 And Levi made him a great feast in his own house: and there was a great company of publicans and of others that sat down with them.
30 But their scribes and Pharisees murmured against his disciples, saying, Why do ye eat and drink with publicans and sinners?
31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick.
32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Luke 5: 27-31

Surely the Lord was not endorsing the behavior of publicans by eating with them, was he? And when the woman who was taken in adultery was brought before Jesus...

10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

John 8 10,11

Jesus didn't condemn her but He didn't forgive her either. He merely stated "Go and sin no more." Did He, in doing so, endorse her adultery? Of course not. So, given His example, are we to completely disassociate ourselves from sinners and deny their existence and legitimate rights as human beings? The gay marriage fight is about redefining rights and giving the radical gay rights movement legal say over what any and all religions can and cannot believe. This particular law simply deals with housing and employment discrimination. So, are we following His example if we refuse any and all contact with sinners by denying their legitimate rights? Or should we, as He did, recognize their humanity with all its frailties? Hate the sin, not the sinner, right?

15 posted on 11/11/2009 6:52:26 PM PST by Reaganesque ("And thou shalt do it with all humility, trusting in me, reviling not against revilers.")
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To: B-Chan

You said it, my friend.


16 posted on 11/11/2009 6:56:29 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Lizavetta

Thanks for the support.


17 posted on 11/11/2009 7:07:44 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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Good points. I think in a Constitutional sense, the Federal Government should be silent on marriage and have a flat income tax only. Ideally, all government should stay out of marriage, a libertarian option, from standards, age limits and so on, where it would be between the man and woman, or whomever and their church (or other religious body if any) and leave it at that. Even if others do not recognize the marriage in their hearts, at least between the parties involved, they will still be married in their hearts and minds. However, we don't have an ideal system like that so the next best option is to have each State decide by the efforts of their people that reside in them be it full homosexual marriage, civil unions or marriage just between a man and a woman.

The thing is that homosexuals have always been around and doing the same things for thousands of years. What I really object to is the in your face stuff. I think if they lived their lives like anyone else and kept it in the bedrooms, it would not be a problem at all, live and let live. Heck, I know some homosexuals that are dead set against what Obama is doing to this country as we are. We need "boots on the ground" here and IMHO, we need all we can. I'm much more worried about the direction this country is headed under Obama, if we all go into the drink, it will not matter who is gay or straight, we all will burn together.

We all will have to answer to God for what we did in life and then he will judge each of us accordingly. I don't think homosexuals should burn for eternity either but I do think like the rest of us, we might have to accept some form of temporary penance in the Afterlife.

We got to quit beating up on each other and quit the in your face stuff, we have much bigger fish to fry. In return, we need to use the old science fiction axiom of different genres, "if you don't wiz on my tree, I won't wiz on yours."
18 posted on 11/11/2009 7:18:32 PM PST by Nowhere Man (The night they drove old America down (11-07-2009))
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“Go and sin no more.”

And this is the whole point. Isn’t it? The scriptural injunction is to condemn the sin not the sinner. By knowingly renting to gay couples is not one complicit in the celebration of a sin?

Wouldn’t the proper imperative be: “Yes, we’d rent to you on condition you don’t engage in gay sex” But the law will not allow for this imperative- it would be criminal discrimination.


19 posted on 11/11/2009 8:49:10 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
By knowingly renting to gay couples is not one complicit in the celebration of a sin?

Is it a sin to show kindness to sinners?

20 posted on 11/11/2009 8:58:28 PM PST by kevao (I am Joe Wilson!)
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