Posted on 11/06/2009 5:31:18 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1939/nov39/f06nov39.htm
French fighters best Germans
Monday, November 6, 1939 www.onwar.com
On the Western Front... Nine French Hawk fighters shoot down 4 out of 27 German Me109 fighters over the Saar.
In Norway... The American cargo ship, City of Flint, is returned to her captain, Joseph H. Gainard in Haugesund. Since October 9th, the ship has journeyed under the command of a German prize crew from the Deutschland.
In Moscow... In a speech, Molotov says that the Soviet Union is committed to a policy of peace and blames the war on the forces of capitalism. Meanwhile, the Communist International issues a manifesto in which the German Government is classed with those of Britain and France as being hostile to the workers.
Looks like the Hawk is a Curtiss P-36; British designation was the Mohawk. More here: http://www.military-aircraft.org.uk/ww2-fighter-planes/curtiss-p-36-hawk.htm
Sorry I haven’t been around a while.
It looks like the NAZI and Russians are working together against the Polish jews.
Helsinki is not alarmed
why does that tickle my funny bone?
It looks like there are a large number of Jews that are just wandering refugees at this point. There’s only one camp set up in Poland at this point, the ghettos in Warsaw and such haven’t really been set up and the Nazi’s are driving the Jews towards the Soviet side and vis-versa. Petty bad there right now and the sad fact is that it is going to get worse.
Tomorrow's lead.
On the Western Front... Nine French Hawk fighters shoot down 4 out of 27 German Me109 fighters over the Saar.
Tomorrow's second lead.
Looking at the stats, and assuming a 109E, the German plane should have had a *slight* advantage in performance, but it looks like the equipment should be a fairly even match.
10 Conditions For Transition To Communism
1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all right of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of the population over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
Not a whole lot has changed for those opposed to democracy, has it?
“Nine French Hawk fighters shoot down 4 out of 27 German Me109 fighters over the Saar.”
Just ordered a book based on the microfisch records of the the Luftwaffe Quartermaster General, from the Bundesarchiv, detailing EVERY luftwaffe aircraft hull loss, up to about late March 1945!
Should be here in a couple of weeks.
LT Frank-Werner Rott, 3 Staff/JG53, Shoots down a Blenheim over Saulheim Ober Kreuznach. He will get 5 kills and survive the War.
I can’t find a photo of him, but he flew as Reinhard Heydrich’s wingman (The Commander of the GESTAPO), during his 6 weeks of service in a front-line fighter squadron during 1940!
“the Nazi’s are driving the Jews towards the Soviet side and vis-versa”
Jews who make it across the Soviet Border are being accepted by Jewish collective farms, or joining the Army.
Ltn. Jakob Stoll, 9 Staffel/JG53, shoots down another Mureaux 115 Biplane over West Sarrlautern.
He will amass 14 kills before being killed in action on 17 Sep 40.
NAVAL EVENTS-Monday, 6 November, 1939
Destroyer KHARTOUM (Cdr D T Dowler) was completed. Following working up at Portland, she joined the 5th Destroyer Flotilla operating with the Home Fleet on 1 December.
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Destroyer AFRIDI, whose defects were repaired in the Tyne, departed the Tyne and arrived at Rosyth on the 7th for operations.
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On Northern Patrol, there were three cruisers on patrol between the Orkneys and the Faroes, two cruisers and one AMC between the Faroes and Iceland, and one cruiser and two AMCs in the Denmark Strait.
Light cruisers CARDIFF, COLOMBO and DRAGON departed Sullom Voe on Northern Patrol duties, and arrived back on the 12th.
Light cruisers DUNEDIN, DELHI, CALYPSO arrived at Sullom Voe from Northern Patrol.
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Armed boarding vessel NORTHERN DUKE received instructions to take over a merchant ship from light cruiser CERES and escort her into Kirkwall.
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Anti-aircraft cruisers CAIRO and CALCUTTA arrived at Rosyth to strengthen the air defences at Rosyth while the Home Fleet was refuelling there.
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Sloop FLAMINGO, en route from the Clyde to Rosyth, was ordered to attempt to locate an aircraft down in the sea 20 miles northeast of Fraserburgh. She was unable to locate it and arrived at Rosyth on the 8th.
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Polish submarine ORZEL, escorted by destroyer WHITEHALL, departed Rosyth for Dundee for docking. After the escort duty, WHITEHALL arrived back the same day.
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Destroyers INTREPID and IVANHOE arrived at Scapa Flow, and after refuelling, departed for Plymouth, arriving on the 11th. They departed later that day and anchored in the Medway on the 12th, before reaching Chatham on the 13th for conversion to minelaying destroyers.
On 4 December, the conversions were completed and both destroyers departed Chatham for Sheerness. At this time, INTREPID and IVANHOE were detached from the 3rd Destroyer Flotilla and attached to the 20th Flotilla.
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Submarine SEALION on Dogger Bank Patrol at 0943 fired six torpedoes at U.21 in 55-10N, 02-11E.
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Convoy OA.31 of 16 ships departed Southend escorted by destroyers ANTELOPE and VISCOUNT from the 6th to 10th. When the convoy was dispersed, the destroyers joined inbound HXF.7.
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Convoy OB.31 departed Liverpool escorted by destroyers WINCHELSEA and WITHERINGTON to the 9th.
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Convoy AXS.4 of one steamer departed Fowey, escorted by destroyer WAKEFUL, and arrived at Brest on the 7th. Of the next three convoys, AXS.5 through 7, no information or dates are available. Convoy AXS.8 arrived at Brest on 11 December.
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Convoy SA.16 departed Southampton with one steamer, escorted by destroyers SALADIN and SARDONYX, and arrived at Brest on the 7th.
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Battleship WARSPITE escorted by destroyers DAINTY and DIANA arrived at Gibraltar from Malta. WARSPITE departed Gibraltar the same day escorted by destroyers ISIS, ILEX, DAINTY and DIANA and crossed the Atlantic arriving at Halifax on the 14th. She remained there until the 18th when she left as heavy escort for convoy HX.9.
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Convoy HX.6 of 52 ships, escorted by battleship RESOLUTION was met in the Western Approaches by eight destroyers, including WARWICK and WHIRLWIND. The convoy split on the 7th. RESOLUTION with two destroyers proceeded directly to Plymouth, leaving the two convoy sections each escorted by three destroyers.
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Convoy HG.6 departed Gibraltar with 34 ships, escorted by destroyers WATCHMAN, VORTIGERN and the French CHACAL and MISTRAL. The French ships were escorts from the 6th and patrolled on the 10th. On the 13th, they arrived at Brest. Destroyer ISIS, after joining with captured German steamer LEANDER, was with the convoy from the 12th to 14th. Submarine depot ship CYCLOPS travelled in convoy returning to England for duty in Home Waters. The convoy arrived at Liverpool on the 14th.
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Light cruiser GALATEA departed Port Said, arrived at Haifa on the 7th, and Alexandria on the 8th.
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Armed merchant cruiser ASCANIA carrying £2,000,000 in gold bullion arrived at Halifax, escorted into port by Canadian destroyers FRASER and ST LAURENT.
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French large cruiser MILAN passed Gibraltar east to west.
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Finnish steamer JESSIE (1405grt) was seized in the Baltic by a German warship, and taken to Kiel.
6 Novenber 1939:
Pocket battleship Admiral Graf Spee (Kpt.zS Langsdorff) operates south of Madagascar.
G.S. sunk the small tanker Shell Africa (706 tons)
One of the MAJOR German advantages in the air was tactical. The Germans [Werner Moelders to be specific]had perfected a new tactical system for fighters in Spain, the “four finger formation” of two pairs of wing men. The Western Allies were still flying in WW I close formation.
Moelders’ system is still in use today. Germany’s first General of Fighters, Moelders was killed in a plane crash on the Eastern Front.
Heydrich Me 110s [Ibelieve] in Norway. He flew again in 1941 [not sure of the aircraft type] in Russia, and was shot down. He was rescued by ground troops, and forbidden to fly in combat again by Hitler.
Heydrich wasn’t the Commander of the Gestapo. That was his subordinate, Heinrich Meller. By 1940, Heydrich was the CG of the RSHA. Before that he was Chief of the Sicherheitspolizei and SD.
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