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To: discostu
> I never talked about attacks. I simply pointed out that malware exists for ALL platforms and that platforms CAN be hit

And I replied that all that matters is whether the malware can actually DO something other than fail against proper robust defense. If it is not effective, then it's just pissing against the door, and therefore IT IS NOT A PROBLEM. Got that? NOT. A. PROBLEM.

Simple analogy: Your car's engine generates heat. If you don't get rid of the heat, the engine will break. So you properly design the engine to include a cooling system. Now, as long as you maintain the system, HEAT IS NOT A PROBLEM. I'm not saying that there's "no heat". WE AGREE THAT THE HEAT IS THERE. I'm saying that "the heat is dealt with by proper design".

Got that analogy? Car = operating system. Heat = malware. Cooling system = proper design. OK??? Unix is properly designed for robustness. Windows, even after all these years, is not. That's why a properly patched Windows system is STILL VULNERABLE while Unix is not.

> And if you think there are no effective viruses against Unix you’re an idiot

That epithet was uncalled for. It's also inaccurate.

I challenged you to name four viruses that are effective against Unix since 2000 and succeeded in infecting a few thousand systems. You failed to name even ONE virus that is effective against a properly patched Unix system.

Call me an idiot? Name the viruses that have infected a few thousand properly patched Unix systems since 2000. NOW. And don't pull the crap you did before about ancient unpatched systems or Linux. We're talking about Unix, relatively recent, properly patched.

113 posted on 11/07/2009 4:16:27 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

Funny how the guy doing all the screaming is accusing others of being a troll.

No that epithet was called for. Because you’ve spent three days being condescending and insulting, and you stuck your foot in it saying the stupidest thing on this thread.

I don’t need to name any viruses. You know they get made, you know you need to take certain precautions like patching up and not running as root to protect yourself from them. Here’s a little something from the guys that wrote this article:
http://www.sophos.com/blogs/sophoslabs/v/post/1423

More recently our own analysis shows that nearly half the compromised web servers hosting malware are running Apache, and 70% of the infections caught on our linux honeypot are a six year old virus called Rst-B. And the most commonly infected files are trojanised versions of Unix system utilities downloaded by hackers after a successful break-in.

I want you to pay particular attention to the last sentence. Trojans utilize the one vulnerability no OS can protect itself from: stupid users. As long as stupid users exist there will always be effective viruses.


119 posted on 11/07/2009 5:55:30 PM PST by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
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