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For Microsoft, Windows 7 couldn't come a moment too soon
MarketWatch ^ | Oct. 22, 2009, 10:39 a.m. EDT | John Letzing, MarketWatch

Posted on 10/22/2009 9:34:33 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Several big tech companies depending on revamp of flagship product

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Toshiba Corp. has long maintained a staff of engineers at Microsoft Corp.'s headquarters, to consult on the development of products compatible with the Japanese conglomerate's personal computers.

But collaboration between Toshiba and Microsoft on the newest version of the Redmond, Wash.-based company's flagship Windows software, dubbed Windows 7, was far more involved than it had been in the past - highlighting a need to dull memories of the product's flawed predecessor, and to bolster the fortunes of both Microsoft and the many technology companies that depend on it.

"We had discussions around really having the software and hardware work together even more so than before, and that's what started the idea of collaborating in a different way on Windows 7," said Phil Osako, a director of product marketing at Toshiba.

In many ways, a successful introduction of Windows 7, which hits the market on Thursday, is crucial.

(Excerpt) Read more at marketwatch.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: hitech; microsoft; windows7

1 posted on 10/22/2009 9:34:33 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: ShadowAce

fyi


2 posted on 10/22/2009 9:35:02 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"We had discussions around really having the software and hardware work together even more so than before"
Wow, what a concept, a major breakthrough!
3 posted on 10/22/2009 9:39:04 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven
LOL!

Time for Microsoft to perform....in areas other than marketing!

4 posted on 10/22/2009 9:44:27 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: sneakers

bump


5 posted on 10/22/2009 9:45:13 AM PDT by sneakers
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I hate Vista with a Passion. I have never suffered so many blue screens and incompatibilities.

To get over all of it, I installed Virtual Machine, so I could run all my application without having to buy new stuff and learn them.

It also saved me another thousand dollars so I didn’t have to buy a new laser printer and other peripherals.

Also, the new office(2007?) Blows big time. They completely changed the look and feel of the office suite, to the point it is unrecognizable.

Menu items are in different places with different icons and what should be familiar is buried under some Rosetta Stone hyroglyphs that must have made sense to some lab coat wearing genius but, I am now no longer an expert at using applications I have used for years.

They should have given you the ability to use “Classic View” instead they foisted Classic Coke on us and coupled it with a shit version .002-a.

Next time I buy a computer, it will be in advance of even needing it. So I can learn it and see if I need Virtual Machine to run the stuff I want.


6 posted on 10/22/2009 9:47:58 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

I love office 2007, best product Microsoft ever put out (sorry, but its truly awesome)


7 posted on 10/22/2009 9:48:56 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

I agree with you on Office 2007, it is a great product. It took a little effort to get used to the new layout, but it was worth it. Of course I am only 53 years old, so I am still young enough to adapt.


8 posted on 10/22/2009 9:53:22 AM PDT by Busywhiskers ("Once you have wrestled, everything else in life is easy" -Dan Gable)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

9 posted on 10/22/2009 10:03:12 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Scythian

What do you like in Office 2007 over 2003? I use 2007 and after an hour or so of use, I could find what I needed but what I want to know is, what is better in 2007?

Maybe I’m missing something and as someone said, they should have given the option of a ‘classic’ look.


10 posted on 10/22/2009 10:09:17 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Busywhiskers

Supposedly the revamp of Office into Office 2007 was based on some incredible amount of hours of videotape of how real users used Office. Their goal was to make it much better. They knew people would have to totally relearn, but figured they would have a much better product in the end.

Has that been your experience with the product?


11 posted on 10/22/2009 10:09:45 AM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: Lx

Well, the one thing that initially confused me is the big round thing, that’s a menu too, where file save, open and print and all that stuff is, the Ribbon bar does take some getting used to, but I’m a programmer geek and that might be why I like it so?


12 posted on 10/22/2009 10:13:41 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Vendome
Related thread:

Forrester claims the OS is dead (Say goodbye to Windows XP)

13 posted on 10/22/2009 10:18:29 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Vendome
They completely changed the look and feel of the office suite, to the point it is unrecognizable.

Never have I used an application's help function as much as I have with the latest version of Word. I was fighting it for a while with an IT guy's 'damn-it-I-can-figure-this-out' mentality.

Lately I've just given up and used help like some poor confused user.

At least in OpenOffice things are pretty much where you expect them to be.

Look...all I really want to do is insert a date...

14 posted on 10/22/2009 10:23:06 AM PDT by OpeEdMunkey (Eat right...exercise...die anyway.)
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To: Lx
I have Office-2003 running on XP - both works great for my home office.

Will W7 handle Office-2003?

15 posted on 10/22/2009 10:25:56 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: john in springfield
Has that been your experience with the product?

I like the new Office UI after getting used to where everything is. But it's such a tremendous resource hog that any user experience is gone. Why should it take a couple of minutes to start Outlook, and when I'm trying to do other work while it's starting it steals focus back three times!

16 posted on 10/22/2009 10:26:15 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Scythian

Other than the much larger memory signature and pointlessly re-arranged UI what’s actually different about 2007? Can it actually do something 2003 can’t? Saw it crash yesterday doing nothing, we were in a meeting and they had a doc to show us, guy opened it in Word-07 scrolled down a little, talked a little and BAM Word waves bye-bye. Pretty funny.


17 posted on 10/22/2009 10:29:07 AM PDT by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
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To: antiRepublicrat

What about Open Office? It’s free.


18 posted on 10/22/2009 10:34:23 AM PDT by Mmogamer (<This space for lease>)
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To: OpeEdMunkey

That is the crap I am talking about.

WTF were they thinking? Oh here, you have plenty of time to learn a foreign language.

This after spending 15 years learning the other menus and keyboard shortcuts.

Stupid!


19 posted on 10/22/2009 11:25:33 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: john in springfield

Has that been your experience with the product?

It wasn’t a matter of totally relearning, but it did require getting used to the spatial differences and the logic of the new layout. O2007 also has some nice features that came in handy for producing academic papers for my MBA classes such as way it handles citations and revision tracking.

Once you get up the curve, it’s a fine product and getting up the curve wasn’t that bad.


20 posted on 10/22/2009 3:00:03 PM PDT by Busywhiskers ("Once you have wrestled, everything else in life is easy" -Dan Gable)
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