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To: freedumb2003; aruanan
As I said, it is anecdotal evidence. I am trying to convince nobody with it. My original point in posting to this thread was the fact that my son, who has never had immunizations, has a severe peanut allergy, while his parents (my wife and myself) have no allergies to speak of. This would seem to contradict the idea that immunizations lead to peanut allergies. I suppose I was not so clear in my original post. Anyhow, that being said, I am VERY glad my son did not get immunizations, as his reaction could have been damaging due to his severe allergy to peanuts and eggs. That's all. No need to turn this into a philosophy or debate class. But thank you for your use of the $10,000 dollar latin phrase post hoc ergo propter hoc.
55 posted on 10/19/2009 1:53:37 PM PDT by refreshed
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To: refreshed

>>But thank you for your use of the $10,000 dollar latin phrase post hoc ergo propter hoc.<<

Sorry to dogpile and I am glad it all worked out for you (well, for the most part). I would say that the marked increase in peanut allergy, pretty much out of nowhere, is indeed analogous (if not congruent) with the marked increase in autism.

You did take a risk, but that is what parents do. I only ask (as a citizen) that it be a reasoned risk.

And I owe you a $5,000 discount because I thought I was stuffily (is there any other way?) discoursing on “Non Sequitur” arguments!

Really, good job on clarificatiating.


56 posted on 10/19/2009 3:55:54 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: refreshed
But thank you for your use of the $10,000 dollar latin phrase post hoc ergo propter hoc.

This is just a standard, commonly encountered phrase that describes the practice of thinking that A caused B because B appeared after A. Unfortunately, several things that can lead to sensitizing of a child to an allergen are 1. introducing milk, egg, peanut, and other proteins at too young an age before tight junctions in the gut have fully closed, 2. inadequate gastric secretion that permits a bigger load of undenatured protein to make it to the small intestine, 3. insufficient mucosal protection in the small intestine. Though some cases of sensitization have occurred through aerosolization of the allergen, most are by mouth, and most of those by entry through the small intestine.
60 posted on 10/19/2009 8:15:29 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: refreshed
This would seem to contradict the idea that immunizations lead to peanut allergies.

It only contradicts the idea that only immunizations lead to peanut allergies.

83 posted on 10/31/2009 4:36:27 PM PDT by maryz
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