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Swine Flu and Selfish School System [vanity in vain]

Posted on 10/17/2009 7:49:58 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March

So now we are seeing kids falling like flies from the swine flu [H1N1], and what drastic measures are being taken by the school system? Zip, zero, nadda. The dirty little secret is that schools are paid according to attendence. Kids need doctors' notes -- yadda-yadda. Bottom line -- sick kids are "noble" for toughing it out in school and spreading illness.

If the safe school tsar gave half a tinker's fig, he would start fining schools that have obvious sick kids in class. Obama doesn't really care, his administration doesn't care, the teachers' union doesn't care -- it's all about money.

But then again, what should I expect? Here is the man 0 chose as "safe school tsar": Kevin Jennings, a NAMBLA advocate.

http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/story/obama-safe-schools-czar-kevin-jennings-henry-hay-and/

But there's more:

http://www.traditionalvalues.org/modules.php?sid=3759

"In his book, One Teacher In Ten, Jennings says he counseled a 15-year-old boy named Brewster in the spring of 1988. The boy had met an older man in a Boston bus stop restroom and had gone home with him. The boy had come to Jennings for counsel because he knew Jennings was a closeted gay teacher."

He reportedly covered up a child molestation.

So, while it would have been nice to actually have a "safe school tsar" to discourage schools from allowing sneezing, runny nosed students from going to school, this is the creep we have to "care" about child safety. Yeah, Obama "cares".


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: brewster; education; flu; h1n1; influenza; kevinjennings; nambla; obama; safeschooltsar; swineflu; tsar

1 posted on 10/17/2009 7:49:58 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: MeekOneGOP; spectre; Fred Nerks; TigersEye; floriduh voter; MHGinTN; snippy_about_it; ovrtaxt; ...

Ping.


2 posted on 10/17/2009 7:51:22 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Ayers unimportant? What about Robert KKK Byrd or FALN pardons? DNC -- the terrorism party.)
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To: whoever

Links for the above adresses ...

http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/story/obama-safe-schools-czar-kevin-jennings-henry-hay-and/

http://www.traditionalvalues.org/modules.php?sid=3759


3 posted on 10/17/2009 7:52:24 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Ayers unimportant? What about Robert KKK Byrd or FALN pardons? DNC -- the terrorism party.)
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To: 09Patriot; abigail2; Baron OBeef Dip; BellStar; b4its2late; Blue Turtle; BootsOfEscaping; ...

pig flu epidemiology TSN ping ............


4 posted on 10/17/2009 8:08:59 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
he would start fining schools that have obvious sick kids in class.

ahem, no. More power, more bureaucracy, no thanks.

How about this...if you have a sick kid then, you, THE PARENT, keep them home and don't give in to the "noble" label, and stop worrying about who is encouraging you to do something you shouldn't do. How about parental responsibility. Gee whiz stop giving the government school more power than they already have.

And Kevin Jennings should be out b/c of the links provided not b/c he's not telling us to keep our sick kids home or not running around fining schools b/c parents are too stupid to keep sick kids home.
5 posted on 10/17/2009 8:31:57 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
So now we are seeing kids falling like flies from the swine flu [H1N1]

That's a little melodramatic, don't ya think?

The dirty little secret is that schools are paid according to attendence.

I can't speak for other states but this is not true in Iowa. Enrollment? Yes. Attendance? No. And it's no secret.

6 posted on 10/17/2009 8:41:28 AM PDT by Grit (Nothing to see here. Please disperse.)
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To: Grit

The president and all the czars du-jour should have nothing to say about local education. IMHO.


7 posted on 10/17/2009 8:43:41 AM PDT by Grit (Nothing to see here. Please disperse.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Do you REALLY want to give the federal government CONTROL over who goes and does not go to school? I’m of the opinion that the LAST thing we need is another unelected unaccountable bureaucrat getting the federal government involved in LOCAL schools.


8 posted on 10/17/2009 9:22:04 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
The question is how many dead children are acceptable for the smooth running of the economy. How many children suffering long term handicaps (damaged lungs and other organs)due to the flu are acceptable. If public schools were closed, mommies and daddies could not go on with business as usual.

Your solution of fining schools for permitting sick kids in class is not going to do anything to limit infection. Prior to showing symptoms, the child is contagious. The virus is airborne. The virus lives on surfaces for a day or more. So by the time the infected kid is showing symptoms, she has already infected others she has close contact with or who come in contact with the lunch table in which she shed the virus.

To me the answer to how many kids are worth sacrificing for the economy and convenience of adults is zero - but I am a child loving, human life loving wacko. Public health practices call for social distancing to stem the spread of contagious disease. That would mean closing the virus factories known as public schools and day cares or parents going out of their way to find a less risky environments for their kids for this winter. That is not going to happen because parents are busy pretending there is little risk in this flu when the truth is, they do not know what the risk is because there is no valid data being collected on infections, deaths and permanent handicaps from the flu. So they are just playing teeee veeee dummies and not doing their own research and analysis of the situation.

The deaths assigned to the flu is hugely under reported. They get away with this by calling deaths due to “underlying” conditions rather than assigning the death to the flu. So a kid who has diabetes and who would survive fine under normal circumstances into adulthood, will be too weak to live through the swine flu virus infection. The death cert. will show the cause of death as diabetes. But what is really the cause of death? Swine flu! Swine flu sets the immune system into an ineffective frenzy and secondary bacterial infections are common in dead and damaged flu victims. They assign the cause of death to the infections that beset the body of the flu victim.

This virus is “hitting the young hard” because we have decided their lives are not worth protecting for this school year. Whereas we live and work in environments that are not full of people slobbering on each other, their hands, toys and tables, kids are in environments that could be called flu factories. That is why it is killing the young more than older generations. We essentially targeted the kids for contracting the disease increasing their risk of, suffering, permanent physical damage and dying.

On purpose or by accident we are concentrating the virus in families - children and caretakers, aka, breeders. We do not protect kids and families anymore.

9 posted on 10/17/2009 9:28:48 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

There are lots of kids sick with H1N1 at my kids’ private school. They are not closing it.

Don’t know what to make of all of this, and I have high risk kids.


10 posted on 10/18/2009 6:47:09 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: taxcontrol

They are called “government run schools”. It’s their responsibility to keep those kids safe isn’t it? If I had a kid in that brain numbing prison, I sure as heck would want some sniffling kid next to mine tested or sent home.

The government wants responsibility? They freaking well ought to TAKE some responsibility too.


11 posted on 10/22/2009 4:21:35 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Ayers unimportant? What about Robert KKK Byrd or FALN pardons? DNC -- the terrorism party.)
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To: socialismisinsidious

Yeah, it’s always the government taking power and then passing the buck to scapegoats, in this case the parents. The government runs the stinking schools, and they have a system of duress that it’s easier to send a sick kid to school than to go to the doctor. It’s government power that created this mess. Why shouldn’t parents take note?


12 posted on 10/22/2009 4:24:09 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Ayers unimportant? What about Robert KKK Byrd or FALN pardons? DNC -- the terrorism party.)
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To: SaraJohnson

You lay it out well. The problem is that high tech home schooling would be cheaper and better anyway. Teachers should have been camcordering their previous school years so sick kids could learn at home on days they miss. Parents could track their kids’ activities with web cams more cheaply than the cost of putting a child in school. But that doesn’t help the teachers’ union.

They want to punish kids who don’t go to school. Why bother helping them?


13 posted on 10/22/2009 4:27:49 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Ayers unimportant? What about Robert KKK Byrd or FALN pardons? DNC -- the terrorism party.)
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To: luckystarmom

When I worked in fast food, I saw it every year. When school starts, everyone gets sick. People get downright cynical about it — “they’d catch the bug anyway”.

Well, this year is different. The rats are squeaking about H1N1 while public schools are the incubators.


14 posted on 10/22/2009 4:29:41 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Ayers unimportant? What about Robert KKK Byrd or FALN pardons? DNC -- the terrorism party.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Agreed, but it’s more ominous than just federal money for kids in a seat, the goal is to spread the virus, and cause the crisis, to panic America into getting this shot, keep watching, it’s going to turn “very deadly” all of a sudden


15 posted on 10/22/2009 4:31:37 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: taxcontrol

Of course I don’t want to give government control. They already took control. But they want no accountability. I want to see more homeschooling and webcam/electronic supervision.


16 posted on 10/22/2009 4:32:41 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Ayers unimportant? What about Robert KKK Byrd or FALN pardons? DNC -- the terrorism party.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

My son’s private school records classes and puts it on the internet. If the kids know they are going to be sick, somehow they can get on the internet and listen to the lecture. They also put their lectures (power points, class notes, homework assignments) online. It’s great!!

My son has never needed all the online services, but I have a daughter with epilepsy who misses lots of school. I think at some point, she’ll need the services.

Their school is starting to offer online classes.

Their school will also let homeschooled kid participate in some of the after-school activities.

I think their school is a good model for schools of the future.


17 posted on 10/22/2009 8:49:56 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom

Absolutely. And I bet you would want kids safe in school this year, and a teacher who sends obviously sick kids to the school nurse.


18 posted on 10/26/2009 3:19:26 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Ayers unimportant? What about Robert KKK Byrd or FALN pardons? DNC -- the terrorism party.)
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