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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Germans raid Scapa Flow

Tuesday, October 17, 1939 www.onwar.com

In Britain... German Ju88 bombers strike the British naval base at Scapa Flow. The training battleship Iron Duke (which was the flagship of Admiral Jellico — 1914 to 1917 — during World War I) is damaged and has to be beached.

In the North Sea... German destroyers lay mines by night off the Humber estuary.

In Paris... The French report sharp infantry engagements on the front near Saarbrucken.

In Berlin... The Germans report “absolute quiet” on the Rhine Front. A lone German soldier was accidentally killed by falling shrapnel from a German anti-aircraft gun.

In Moscow... Turkish representatives break off talks for a defense treaty with the Soviet Union. While the prolonged Turkish-Soviet negotiations end without agreement there are professions of mutual friendliness. Soviet representatives paid tribute to Turkish Foreign Minister Sarajoglu before his departure. Last minute Soviet proposals conflicted with Turkish engagements to Britain and France and these were rejected by Sarajoglu.


4 posted on 10/17/2009 5:45:22 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb
In Britain... German Ju88 bombers strike the British naval base at Scapa Flow. The training battleship Iron Duke (which was the flagship of Admiral Jellico — 1914 to 1917 — during World War I) is damaged and has to be beached.

In Paris... The French report sharp infantry engagements on the front near Saarbrucken.

Read these and other stories in tomorrow's edition of The New York Times. By then the "sharp infantry engagements" will have expanded to an attack by 100,000 Germans.

13 posted on 10/17/2009 7:42:48 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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It's almost ironic that the flagship at the Battle of Jutland, the Iron Duke was hit today a couple of days after the Royal Oak which was also involved in that battle was sunk. Here's what Churchill had to say about that in the War Cabinet Meeting.

CONCLUSIONS of a Meeting of the War Cabinet held at 10 Downing Street, S.W.1, on Tuesday, October 17, 1939, at 11:30 a.m.

The First Lord of the Admiralty said that he had news of an air raid in progress at Scapa Flow, and warnings had been given at Rosyth and Humber, though these were probably on account of reconnaissance aircraft.
The Iron Duke, which had been demilitarized under the Naval Treaty, and was now in use as a depot ship in Scapa, had been hit. She was not armoured, and after the hit, had developed a list but had been beached. There were no casualties, but one of the enemy aircraft had been shot down.

There is no mention of the Repulse anywhere in the meeting notes so I she's probably all right.

21 posted on 10/17/2009 9:11:02 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (My tagline is an honor student at Free Republic Elementary School.)
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