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Is Hollywood really a hotbed of support for Roman Polanski?
LA Times ^ | October 6, 2009 | PATRICK GOLDSTEIN

Posted on 10/06/2009 4:06:36 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep

With all the studio hirings and firings in the last 24 hours, I've been too busy to revisit until now one of the most wonderfully bizarre twists in the Roman Polanski case. For days on end, I've been reading stories everywhere about how the Hollywood elite has rushed to Polanski's defense, saying he should be released from custody in Switzerland, seemingly glossing over that in 1977 he gave a 13-year-old girl champagne and a Quaalude and had sex with her.

There is no disagreement about the sex. But I take issue with all the stories -- including this latest one from Wall Street Journal critic Terry Teachout -- that claim Hollywood's support of Polanski is evidence of just how out of touch the movie industry is with the rest of the world. Teachout bashes all of the "Hollywood celebrities" who have rushed to Polanski's defense, starting with Harvey Weinstein, who was quoted in a story in my paper, describing Polanski's vile conduct as a "so-called crime." Teachout rattles off the names of a host of filmmakers -- including Woody Allen, Jonathan Demme, Sam Mendes, Mike Nichols and Martin Scorsese -- who signed an international petition that "demands the immediate release of Roman Polanski."

There's only one problem: All of those filmmakers, along with Harvey Weinstein, live far, far away from Hollywood and, with occasional exceptions, make their movies outside of Hollywood as well. If you look up the rest of the names on the best-known petition in circulation, it is filled with the names of foreign filmmakers, writers and actors -- including the likes of Pedro Almodovar, Wong Kar Wai, Alfonso Cuaron, Isabelle Adjani and Salman Rushdie -- who also rarely set foot in Hollywood.

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1 posted on 10/06/2009 4:06:37 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Yes.

Next question?


2 posted on 10/06/2009 4:08:15 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Marking Time On The Government's Dime)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Polanski was denied bail by the Swiss courts today.


3 posted on 10/06/2009 4:10:05 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Wow, this could just as well be titled “It’s not the Martin Scorcese that I knew, or Weinstien, or Cruz, or Mike Nichols etc., etc. etc.”.


4 posted on 10/06/2009 4:10:35 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
seemingly glossing over that in 1977 he gave a 13-year-old girl champagne and a Quaalude and had sex with her. There is no disagreement about the sex.

It was rape, he raped her anally after she said NO

I notice these articles usually miss the R word.

5 posted on 10/06/2009 4:10:55 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Old Sarge

I don’t agree. Having children has become the Hollywood passion and pastime. Many of these people have young children and know the depth of depravity that Polanski plumbed.


6 posted on 10/06/2009 4:11:52 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
OK, the problem isn't Hollywood...the problem is self elected “aristocrats” and elites that harbor so much loathing for the commoners that they trivialize any conduct (child molestation, fleeing a jurisdiction, jumping bail, etc.)committed by one of their own against a commoner. Thank you LA Times for reminding us what the problem really is.
7 posted on 10/06/2009 4:18:05 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Now that the libs are in power dissent is not only unpatriotic, but, it is also racist.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

I guess Hollywood types, celebrities and executives really think they don’t need any moviegoers who have, are, or know someone who has ever been 13.


8 posted on 10/06/2009 4:20:38 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Well, if so many Hollywood elites are against the child rapist, why haven’t they said anything? Why haven’t they prepared a petition, something along the lines of NOT IN MY NAME! They are playing it safe, protecting their careers by not contradicting the Scorcese set - does that really count as being against anything? Defensive silence as protest? Can they blame us for thinking Hollywood is supporting POlanski when celebrities will use their clout to support him but remain silent and guard their clout if they are against freeing him?


9 posted on 10/06/2009 4:36:56 PM PDT by ransomnote
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Isabelle Adjani? Nooooooooo!!!!


10 posted on 10/06/2009 4:39:16 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: ransomnote
Well, if so many Hollywood elites are against the child rapist, why haven’t they said anything? Why haven’t they prepared a petition, something along the lines of NOT IN MY NAME!

Why haven't you? From the article:

Towards the end of the piece, we’re treated to this jaw-dropping bit of whimsy: “it's almost impossible to find anyone publicly condemning Polanski.” I’m compelled to point out that it’s not entirely easy finding people who support him, either. It’s so hard, in fact, that you have to do some serious number-fudging to make it look like you found any at all. And I have to wonder, did you ASK anyone? Because, as I said earlier, alerting the media that you don’t have a problem with a fugitive from justice being caught is not exactly normal behavior. That nobody does it is hardly evidence that everyone supports crime.

In the next day or so, there will be all sorts of petitions flying around town from people in response to this article, and all the other poorly reasoned anti-Hollywood rants that have arisen from this situation. Countless of my fellow filmmakers will attest to the fact that they think Polanski should be brought to America to face his punishment. It will make some difference, I’m sure, but the damage has been done. The stupid questions have already been asked, and cannot be un-asked. Anyone who doesn’t sign these petitions will now be suspect to all the lazy reporters, internet bloggers, conservative mouthpieces, and talk radio mouth-breathers who are so up in arms.

But some of us won’t sign the damn thing, because if we accede to the ludicrous demand that we sign petitions stating that it’s a good thing when wanted criminals are brought to justice, the next thing they’ll demand is that we take loyalty oaths. I don’t need to see Melissa Silverstein, Jonathan Kuntz or, frankly, ANYONE sign a petition telling me that they disapprove of molesting children. I don’t need them to swear under oath that they think it’s good for a fugitive from justice to be hauled in. I’ll take it on faith, because I assume that, in spite of their penchant for drama and their apparent need to demonize people they know nothing about, they’re mostly decent people.


11 posted on 10/06/2009 4:41:29 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
There's only one problem: All of those filmmakers, along with Harvey Weinstein, live far, far away from Hollywood and, with occasional exceptions, make their movies outside of Hollywood as well.

Talk about a dishonest attempt to excuse the movers and shakers of the entertainment industry by resorting to a supposed technicality. "Hollywood" is just the all-encompassing generic term for the movie and TV industry just like Kleenex is the generic term for all facial tissues. And of course not everyone in/associated with Hollywood supports Polanski but some of the biggest big shots do and even signed on the dotted line.

This writer knows that the signers of that petition made a major mistake and is attempting to cover their butts. Too late.

12 posted on 10/06/2009 4:47:50 PM PDT by torchthemummy (No Obama: Not Because He's Black But Because He's Red)
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To: FrdmLvr

“Polanski was denied bail by the Swiss courts today.”

I am thankful for a bit of integrity from the Swiss in this matter.


13 posted on 10/06/2009 4:49:16 PM PDT by fujimoh
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Thank you for the post (extending the text). I expect those in the industry with clout to say something to contradict those purporting to represent the film industry’s respect for an artiste. Celebrities lend their name where they believe it may make a difference- I am neither in the industry nor have the clout. I am speaking up in my own sphere where I live and work (not glamorous, not film industry, not surrounded by artistes, not with the profile to entreat Sweden to do anything) when the subject comes up and I am posting here and on other threads. Thanks again for the extended posting - it does help.


14 posted on 10/06/2009 4:49:44 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Hollywood isn’t behind Roman, because none of those people actually live there. :)

You prudes need to get your story straight. :)


15 posted on 10/06/2009 4:51:24 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: torchthemummy
some of the biggest big shots do and even signed on the dotted line.

Really? Who are the big shots? Harvey Weinstein? Maybe ten years ago. A half dozen name directors, maybe two of whom can get a movie made on their name alone. Jonathan Demme? A big shot? Give me a break.

"Hollywood" is just the all-encompassing generic term for the movie and TV industry just like Kleenex is the generic term for all facial tissues.

Right, and "America" is a generic term for everyone who lives in the United States. Therefore, if a half dozen Americans sign a petition demanding something, clearly it's fair to say that America supports that position, right?

16 posted on 10/06/2009 4:55:40 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Goldstein apparently has problems with the term "Hollywood" - fair enough, but then there was Tom Shales earlier today and Whoopie Goldberg to complicate that objection. "Hotbed" is a little too vague for analysis and smacks of straw man status unless Goldstein can actually quote someone using it. But I'm willing to believe the number of people willing to justify the drugging and anal rape of a 13-year-old girl is, in fact, a minority. I'll wait to hear from some of them to be sure.
17 posted on 10/06/2009 4:58:19 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

“Hollywood” is a term to describe the crowd that makes TV shows and movies, not necessarily a town near LA. You’d think that would be fairly easy to figure out.


18 posted on 10/06/2009 5:00:59 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Give credit to Jewel and, yes, N.O.W. (among others) for speaking up early, when it was risky to do so.


19 posted on 10/06/2009 5:01:32 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

Good point. The following quote is from the petition itself.

“Filmmakers, actors, producers and technicians - everyone involved in international filmmaking - want him to know that he has their support and friendship.”

NOW and Jewel do not fall under this umbrella statement much but it still takes guts for them to speak up.


20 posted on 10/06/2009 5:20:29 PM PDT by ransomnote
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