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GERMANY WARNS AMERICAN SHIPPING (10/3/39)
Microfiche-New York Times archives, McHenry Library, U.C. Santa Cruz | 10/3/39 | Louis Stark, G.H. Archambault

Posted on 10/03/2009 6:25:51 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
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Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime”.)
To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile.
1 posted on 10/03/2009 6:25:51 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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On October 3, 1939, 1939, [Hans] Frank [Governor General of Poland] informed the Army of Hitler’s orders.

Poland can only be administered by utilizing the country through means of ruthless exploitation, deportation of all supplies, raw material, machines, factory installations, etc., which are important for the German war economy, availability of all workers for work within Germany, reduction of the entire Polish economy to absolute minimum necessary for bare existence of the population, closing of all educational institutions, especially technical schools and colleges in order to prevent the growth of the new Polish intelligentsia. Poland shall be treated as a colony. The Poles shall be the slaves of the Greater German Reich.

William L. Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

2 posted on 10/03/2009 6:26:43 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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On October 3 Admiral Raeder, Chief of the Naval Staff, submitted a proposal to Hitler headed “Gaining of Bases in Norway.” He asked, “That the Fuehrer be informed as soon as possible of the opinions of the Naval War Staff on the possibilities of extending the operational bases to the north. It must be ascertained whether it is possible to gain bases in Norway under the combined pressure of Russia and Germany, with the aim of improving our strategic and operational position.”

Winston S. Churchill, The Gathering Storm

3 posted on 10/03/2009 6:27:33 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; GRRRRR; 2banana; henkster; ...
Normal practice is to put the lead story first. Since I forgot to print the article I didn’t do that today.

Halt and Search – 2-3
A.F.L. Urges Repeal of Embargo; Holds It Will Keep Us Out of War – 4
The International Situation – 5
Soviet Reported Pouring Men Into China, Menacing Either British India or Japan – 6
Incidents in European Conflict – 6
British Ship Sunk Off Brazil Coast – 8-9
German Threat to Sink Mauretania Seen In Broadcast in English From Hamburg – 10-11
French Advances Mapped in Detail – 12-13
Flight Over Berlin Related by British – 15
U.S. Navy Attache Sees Ark Royal: Denies Nazi Bombers Hit Carrier* – 16
Mundelein is Dead; Cardinal was 67 – 17
Cardinal Mundelein (Editorial) – 18

* Captain Kirk? I could have sworn it was Commander Henry.

4 posted on 10/03/2009 6:30:17 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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I had to laugh at the article regarding the Germans telling shipping lines to sail in straight lines with lights on (and don’t use the radio if you see a german ship)...”So weee cahn blow theee sheeeps out of zeee wasser eazileee!


5 posted on 10/03/2009 6:34:30 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1939/oct39/f03oct39.htm

Tuesday, October 3, 1939

British forces now in the frontline

On the Western Front... The British 1st Corps of the BEF take over responsibility for an appropriate section of the Franco-Belgian frontier. French forces complete their withdrawal from advanced positions in German territory (the Warndt Forest and the Saarbrucken Salient).

In Poland... The last significant units of the Polish army surrender near Luck. The Germans have taken 700,000 prisoners and the Soviets 200,000. Polish casualties have been severe. The Germans have lost 10,000 dead and 30,000 wounded. Many Poles have escaped and will gradually find their way to the west. Although tank units have played a notable part in the campaign, it is interesting to note that the contemporary German official appreciation lay more stress on the traditional-style infantry battles. The tank forces are seen at this stage, except by enthusiasts like Guderian, as little more than useful auxiliaries who can help the infantry do the real work. The first plans for the attack in the west will reflect this official attitude. Meanwhile, the German 10th Army begins to redeploys from Poland to the west.

In Britain... Chamberlain dismisses recent German peace proposals outright.


6 posted on 10/03/2009 6:36:50 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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http://www.gwu.edu/~erpapers/myday/displaydoc.cfm?_y=1939&_f=md055387

OCTOBER, 3, 1939

My Day by Eleanor Roosevelt

SEATTLE, Monday—Yesterday afternoon I left Newark, N.J., at 5:00 o’clock on my way to Seattle, Wash., to see Anna, John and the children. I confess to being quite excited at seeing my youngest grandson again after such a long time. Children at his age change more than they do later on and, while Eleanor and Curtis are just about as they were last spring, their little brother is now a real personality. Even at 9 and 12 years, however, they did change a good deal in six months.

The weather was not very pleasant yesterday and I started with a feeling that this might be a longer trip than I had anticipated. The weather was none too good after we left Chicago, but I arrived only three hours late.

There seem to be a number of interesting things going on in the field of art these days. I received an invitation to attend the free concerts which are being given from October first to seventh at Rockefeller Plaza, to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers. American music by our best composers will be played by symphony orchestras and the best swing bands. The financing of this free festival is being done by the membership of this society as a gesture of appreciation to the American public. Mr. Gene Buck is president of the ASCAP and anyone who is familiar with his abilities as an impressario will know that every one of these concerts will be worth attending. I only wish that I could be in New York City, but I am just about as far away as one can be and still remain in the United States.

The newspapers are less and less cheerful reading, and so, in a world where hatred seems dominant, it is interesting to see the September publication of the International Committee of the Young Mens’ Christian Associations of the United States and Canada, which is called “Today’s Youth and Tomorrow’s World.”

Tomorrow, October 3rd, in several hundred cities in North America, the Young Mens’ Christian Associations will begin the observance of the fiftieth anniversary of their world service program. The YMCA has spread all over the world since two secretaries set out on October 3rd, 1889, from their posts in North America, John T. Swift to go to Tokyo, Japan, and David McConaughy, Jr., to Madras, India. These men went in response to requests from missionary groups and representative leaders in these far away countries, to help develop a work similar to that being done in this country.

This work has led YMCA workers since into fields of danger in many different countries. It has inspired many young men both at home and abroad, and has drawn together young people of many different nationalities and creeds. One can only hope that even though the world seems to be turning to force and hatred at present, that societies such as this may grow in strength during the years to come.


7 posted on 10/03/2009 6:38:33 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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“Captain Kirk” on the Ark royale.

who knew?


8 posted on 10/03/2009 6:39:55 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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9 posted on 10/03/2009 6:40:19 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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In Britain... Chamberlain dismisses recent German peace proposals outright.

Read all about it in tomorrow's issue of The New York Times.

10 posted on 10/03/2009 6:44:42 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/written_answers/1939/oct/03/enemy-merchant-ships-location#S5CV0351P0_19391003_CWA_52

ENEMY MERCHANT SHIPS (LOCATION).
HC Deb 03 October 1939 vol 351 c1838W 1838W

§ Mr. Cassells

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether he can make any statement as to the present location of the Nord Deutscher Lloyd ships “Columbus,” 33,000 tons, and “Orinoco,” 9,650 tons?

§ Mr. Churchill

Both the vessels referred to are at Vera Cruz.


11 posted on 10/03/2009 6:47:11 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: mdmathis6

Actually, as I recall, when the BISMARCK was running for France after sinking the HOOD, and damaging PRINCE OF WALES, she was spotted by a U.S Coast Guard vessel, which radioed her position [I believe] to the Brits.

She was also spotted by a British PBY, whose co-pilot was an American. So the German demands weren’t all that out of line at the time [assuming we were serious about being neutral].


12 posted on 10/03/2009 6:49:41 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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At that point, the Germans didn’t want to pick a fight with the Americans. They wanted to make sure that they had justification prior to sinking a neutral ship.

Since most of the ships would have been subject to seizure because of their cargo and destination, they of course couldn’t comply, and the Germans would have justifiable grounds for sinking them.

To this point, Germany has made an effort to conduct its submarine warfare to traditional naval standards. Going to a standard of sinking without warning was a reasonable response to British actions.


13 posted on 10/03/2009 6:50:31 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: JoeProBono

Wow! A newspaper from the future! How did you do that?


14 posted on 10/03/2009 6:54:27 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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15 posted on 10/03/2009 7:07:25 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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Coast Guard Cutter Modoc, ringside seats at the Battle of the Denmark Straight, May 24, 1941.

http://steelnavy.com/ISWModocFB.htm

16 posted on 10/03/2009 7:39:08 AM PDT by Cheburashka (Stephen Decatur: you want barrels of gunpowder as tribute, you must expect cannonballs with it.)
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Johannes Blaskowitz:

"As a traditional soldier, Blaskowitz kept a firm control on the men under his command in their dealings with civilians, and was outraged by the atrocities committed by the SS and the Einsatzgruppen against Polish and Jewish people. Between November 1939 and February 1940 he wrote several memoranda to higher command, in which he detailed SS atrocities in Poland, their effects on Wehrmacht soldiers, and the insolent attitude of the SS to the army.

"However, his protests produced no condemnations of such behavior, and merely earned him the enmity of Hans Frank, Reinhard Heydrich, Heinrich Himmler, and Adolf Hitler, while Chief of Staff Alfred Jodl dismissed them as naive and "uncalled for".[1]

"Commander-in-Chief Walther von Brauchitsch forwarded Blaskowitz's first memorandum to Hitler on 18 November, who launched a tirade against Blaskowitz, denouncing his concerns about due process as "childish" and poured scorn on his "Salvation Army attitude".[2] As a result, Blaskowitz found himself placed on a blacklist, and he was relieved of his command on 29 May 1940."

Walter von Reichenau:

"During the invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941, von Reichenau again commanded the 6th Army, which captured Kiev and Kharkov.

"Politically, von Reichenau was an active anti-Semite and supported the work of the SS Einsatzgruppen in exterminating the Jews in the occupied Soviet territories. He encouraged his soldiers to commit atrocities against the Jews, telling them: "...In this eastern theatre, the soldier is not only a man fighting in accordance with the rules of the art of war...For this reason the soldier must learn fully to appreciate the necessity for the severe but just retribution that must be meted out to the subhuman species of Jewry...".

"During the offensive, Reichenau inspected every single Russian tank he came across. He would enter each tank and, using a ruler, he would examine the thickness of the armor. Upon examining a T-34 Tank, he told his officers, "If the Russians ever produce this tank on an assembly line, we will have lost the war."

..."In January 1942 von Reichenau suffered a cerebral hemorrhage... von Reichenau actually died of a heart attack."

Gunther von Kluge:

"When Stauffenberg attempted to assassinate Hitler on July 20, Kluge was Oberbefehlshaber West ("Supreme Field Commander West") with his headquarters in La Roche-Guyon. The commander of the occupation troops of France, General Karl-Heinrich von Stülpnagel, and his colleague Colonel Cäsar von Hofacker - a cousin of Stauffenberg - came to visit Kluge. Stülpnagel had just ordered the arrest of the SS units in Paris.

"Kluge had already learned that Hitler had survived the assassination attempt and refused to provide any support. "Ja - wenn das Schwein tot wäre!" ("Well - if the pig were dead!)" he said. [4]

"He was recalled to Berlin for a meeting with Hitler after the coup failed; thinking that Hitler would punish him as a conspirator, he committed suicide by taking cyanide near the World War I battlefield at Verdun. He left Hitler a letter in which he advised Hitler to make peace and “put an end to a hopeless struggle when necessary...”

"Hitler reportedly handed the letter to Alfred Jodl and commented that “There are strong reasons to suspect that had not Kluge committed suicide he would have been arrested anyway.” "

17 posted on 10/03/2009 11:24:58 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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"A.F.L. Urges Repeal of Embargo; Holds It Will Keep Us Out of War – 4 "

So the Democrats say repealing the Embargo Act will make us more neutral and keep us out of war? And some Republicans say, "no, it's a step towards war"?

I'm so confused... which is it?

18 posted on 10/03/2009 11:39:48 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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I'm so confused... which is it?

I think confusion is widespead on this issue. It seems to me that public opinion is very much in sympathy with the allies and the general desire is to go as far towards helping them as possible without contributing American bodies. The political debate is couched in Constitutional terms since that is the proper way to approach the issue, but not what is driving the debate. Maybe your answer lies in the following opinion piece, which originally appeard in the Oct. 1 post.






19 posted on 10/03/2009 12:06:49 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Krock

In 1927, Krock joined the New York Times and soon became its Washington correspondent and bureau chief. His column, “In the Nation,” was noted for its opinions on public policy.


20 posted on 10/03/2009 12:24:41 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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