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After shootings, Saugus club silencing hip-hop
Boston Herald ^ | 09/20/09 | O'Ryan Johnson

Posted on 09/20/2009 6:28:14 AM PDT by raccoonradio

Orchid Nightclub is crying racism but ready to comply with a selectman’s apparent demand that they stop playing hip-hop music. The flareup comes in the wake of a triple shooting early yesterday in the Saugus nightclub’s parking lot.

“It’s absolutely a racial statement. It makes me think the same thing you’re thinking,” said the club’s consultant, Anthony Cagliano, a former Saugus selectman.

“I know the town has made it clear they’re not a fan of hip-hop music and the audience that hip-hop brings,” he said. “So we will get away from the hip-hop scene, which is unfair to the clientele.”

Cagliano’s comments came hours after a patron fired a dozen rounds in the club’s parking lot, injuring three people, all hospitalized with non-life-threatening wounds. Cops have a suspect who faces charges of intent to murder.

That shooting happened a week after a late-night shooting a mile north of the club. Cagliano said that during a Thursday hearing on after-dark violence, town Selectman Stephen Castinetti blamed hip-hop and out-of-town DJs for what he sees as rising mayhem.

When reached by the Herald, Castinetti refused to use the word “hip-hop” and added he wasn’t sure what the music was called.

“What I said was music that promotes violence or glorifies violence and justifies violence brings in a certain clientele,” he said. “I’m convinced if the entertainment changes, the clientele will change.”

He said popular DJs who bring followings contribute to the violence. “I’m of the belief, if the disc jockeys don’t come into town anymore, neither will the violence.”

Castinetti said he does business with Jin Entertainment Complex and loves their restaurant, which is housed in the same building as Orchid, but “I wouldn’t send anyone there when the club is open.”

Cagliano said the man arrested for the shooting pulled a gun from his trunk. He said there were no incidents inside the club. He requests four detail officers every Friday, but due to thin manpower, he cannot fill the slots. Selectmen held an emergency meeting last night to consider the club’s fate.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: hiphop; massachusetts; music; rap; saugus; shooting
Racist? As far as I know hip hop is not exclusively for blacks when it comes to the audience or performers. Meanwhile last night I attended a benefit for the Salem Jazz & Soul Festival with Barrence Whitfield and the Savages--a great soul/blues/rock band. Most of the audience was white and admittedly older than the hip hop crowd, and it wasn't hip hop music, but Barrence is an electrifying performer and all was peaceful. Barrence--real name Barry White, hence the need to change it to avoid confusion--is a great guy. His music is more my style.

As Howie Carr would say, try not to let this destroy your faith in the integrity of the hip hop community.


1 posted on 09/20/2009 6:28:14 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

Hip hop is full vulgar language, violence, abuse of women, killing and worse. Close the whole place.


2 posted on 09/20/2009 6:43:32 AM PDT by mefistofelerevised
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To: raccoonradio

Thinking down the road to see how this action could expand... Let’s say Obama, the communist, does something radical and in line with his lack of respect for human life and inspires a Timothy McVeyish reaction. Let’s say Obama and his communuist pals in the media blame that reaction on Howie Carr’s radio show which covered Obama’s radical action that resulted in the loss of human life...

Would the State’s communists try to shut down Howie Carr’s radio show because it is inciting violence and demand it be replaced with happy-happy-joy-joy smoothe music? Yes they would.

The selectmen should have shut down the club, not target the content of the music. If the club is out of control and can not keep order from it’s activity and the town can’t afford the cops to keep order, the club would have to go.


3 posted on 09/20/2009 6:43:48 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: mefistofelerevised

Agreed - how many times do you hear of shootings at hip-hop clubs- it seems like every other month.


4 posted on 09/20/2009 7:00:58 AM PDT by blackminorca
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To: raccoonradio

You mean an American town is against deliberately attracting members of the 13% of the population which commits 55% of the crime? Seems impossible, doesn’t it!


5 posted on 09/20/2009 7:03:09 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: raccoonradio

Had a friend who bought a club that was notorious for hip hop violence. He changed the format of the club, cleaned it up, etc. So, after success, he decided to have one night a week for hip hop. Yeah, violence in the club and shootings in the parking lot.


6 posted on 09/20/2009 7:16:53 AM PDT by rintense (Senior Marketing / IT / UX architect unemployed and looking for work. Freepmail me if you have leads)
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To: mefistofelerevised

You mean like this by girl group Vixen Ent ? And this is one of their tamer numbers .

Bugsy On the beat bitc*!!
(Chrous)
I toot my sh*t...I toot my muthafuc*ing sh*t! (4x)

I walk in the function ijerk
looking like a bad bitc* niggas start to flirt
a nigga get behind me ima work him out his shirt
He like the way idance he like the way ijerk
He like the way igrind He like the way itwerk
Cuhz i back it on baby til my back be getting hurt
Idrop then roll with it
Booty got swagg if u want it u could go get it
Pussy poppin yeaah ima act a hoe with it
Toot my shi* up wind it up real slow with it
uhh! Ash B go Turn it up
Jerkin in the club
While i’m sippin on the cup
I dont give a fuc*
Let’s get fuc*ed up
Feel on my butt
Gone Fuc* it up
uhh! I toot my fuc*ing shit ima make u wanna hit

(Chrous)

Ijerk! Boy go to work
Liftin up my skirt
After worst make it hurt
Condom in the purse
You’re the patient I’m the nurse
Taste my juice
Im about to peel in the goose
Turnt Feelin Loose
Go deep in my gutt
Boy make me nutt
My Pirannah bite
Tryna get my little buzzz
Boy beat it up fuc* it up speed it up
Lick my tw*t move your tongue like a clock
Play me like a congo fuc* me thru this tongue so
If my pus*y gwop
Bet a Nigga big dunks
I’m Thick like a horse
Ride me like a porsche
Im a bad bitc*
Im hotter than a torch
My Lips super wet
Drip drip wet
Im tryna make a bet
Watch me pull on the di*k
I make my butt drum purumm pum pum pum
I make my butt drum purumm pum pum pum

(Chrous)

BOMB!!
When I come up 2 the club
Im So hyped Drunk
Turnt fUC* iit I’mmm Fuucc**ed up!!!
And he cant handle all this
Back it up one time
Then I toot my sh*t ha ha
And i like them tricks
Str8 Pop one pill
and then i have to go dumb on the di*k
then i have to go dum on the bit*h he was with
Aint playin no games
Cuhz I’m off tht sh*t
Yeaah!! I like the way
He working my back
Turn it over bend down
Cuhz I like it like that
No point if he ain’t
Spitting facts
so do the booty doo JERKIIN
run tht sh*t back
Run that sh*t back?
Yeah run tht sh*t back
and it aint no fun if my vixens
aint turnt up
Grab a couple goose
and pour tht sh*t up
Get drunked in
Smoke a fat blunt towards on
bustin me a nut!!!

(Chrous)

i toot tht sh*t!!! (4x)
I toot i toot i toot my sh*t (5x)


7 posted on 09/20/2009 7:24:22 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: raccoonradio
Orchid Nightclub is crying racism but ready to comply with a selectman’s apparent demand that they stop playing hip-hop music.

It's not racism. Hip-hop just sucks. When this crap became prominent on radio and TV, outside of classic rock, I stopped listening to American stations. I listen to Pagode, but now like Country-Western. Either way, give me a style of music that's a celebration of life and love, not a romp in a fecal-fest of filth that is "Hip-Hop"

Ivete Sangalo - Beleza Rara

If this doesn't jump start your heart, call and ambulance...

Ivete Sangalo - Culpa Da Lua

Incredibly beautiful jazz...

8 posted on 09/20/2009 7:25:55 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: raccoonradio
Does the place have a liquor license? If so, why not just revoke that?
9 posted on 09/20/2009 7:27:30 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: raccoonradio
I was at an Arizona library a couple of weeks ago, looking through music CDs. They were organized into many genres: pop, classical, new age, jazz, holiday, etc. Almost all of the CDs were "naked", as it were, without those inconvenient magnetically-releasable plastic shells on them.

The exception: hip-hop.

I'm surprised the ACLU wasn't picketing outside the library doors.

10 posted on 09/20/2009 7:28:42 AM PDT by AZLiberty (Yes, Mr. Lennon, I do want a revolution.)
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To: raccoonradio
As Howie Carr would say, try not to let this destroy your faith in the integrity of the hip hop community.

I completely believe in the hip hop community...let's face it, they just don't gun down each other with anywhere near the frequency of places that play Glenn Miller...
11 posted on 09/20/2009 7:38:02 AM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: raccoonradio
I remember some years ago there was a hip-hop nightclub in the Old Sacramento part of Sacramento that caused a LOT of problems, including one ugly shooting. Small wonder why the club closed, much to the relief of the Sacramento Police Department!
12 posted on 09/20/2009 7:55:07 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: raccoonradio

“when it comes to the audience or performers.”
_______________________________________________

Yes, there are a few white hip-hop artists, but they all speak Ebonics and hip-speak. And look at the lyrics - when’s the last time the word “niggas” meant “white boys?”

They are “not” targeting a white audience. It’s all misogyny, hate, and violence.


13 posted on 09/20/2009 7:59:39 AM PDT by CTOCS (Some people drink from the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.)
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To: sushiman

That’s a mild example.


14 posted on 09/20/2009 9:10:48 AM PDT by mefistofelerevised
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To: All
I just saw an article on comcast.net........a man killed people rapped about it on myspace as some genre called horrorcore?

What in the hell is happening.

15 posted on 09/20/2009 9:14:40 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: raccoonradio

I just hope Kowloon’s is unaffected.


16 posted on 09/20/2009 10:11:55 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Kakaze

On Saturday, Professor Debra Kelley and three others were discovered shot to death near Longwood College, VA. A suspect: rapper McCroskey.


17 posted on 09/20/2009 2:34:57 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: martin_fierro

Trust me, they aren’t, and will continue to provide Howie with free food (as well as for the “seagulls” at the radio
complex who descend upon WRKO when the grub shows up)


18 posted on 09/20/2009 6:47:46 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

Just have the town yank their Liquor License. Problem solved.


19 posted on 09/20/2009 6:54:54 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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