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Straight spouses advocate same-sex marriage
hostednews ^ | 3 hours ago | LISA LEFF

Posted on 09/14/2009 6:41:11 AM PDT by JoeProBono

SAN FRANCISCO — Wah Cheong, a lifelong Republican and the soon-to-be divorced father of two teenage boys, sometimes surprises his co-workers and neighbors in a relatively conservative community outside San Francisco when he says he supports same-sex marriage. "Here is my situation," the 47-year-old chemical engineer tells them when the hot-button topic comes up. "If gays and lesbians were more accepted, I wouldn't have married a closeted lesbian."

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To: Trailerpark Badass

21 posted on 09/14/2009 7:07:43 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Dr. Ursus

Naw, the law cannot fix STUPID.


22 posted on 09/14/2009 7:09:23 AM PDT by bboop (Tar and feathers -- good back then, good now)
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To: babble-on

A child has a right to have a mother and a father. Marriage is not about recognizing “committed relationships”. The government can neither give approbation nor condemnation to “life styles.” The government through marriage can require those who produce a child to care for it so the taxpayers don’t.

Here a liberals agreement:

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-blankenhorn19-2008sep19,0,6057126.story


23 posted on 09/14/2009 7:14:07 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: Smokin' Joe
Yes, she lied, absolutely, because of the social pressure to conform to a heterosexual standard.

If the behaviour pattern survives in spite of not being completely socially accepted, it will continue to do so, without the invasion of the sacrament of matrimony.

Yes, I don't think anyone is suggesting that legalizing "gay marriage" will eliminate homosexuality. My suggestion would be changing civil "marriage" to a non-sacramental term for everyone, and leave the term "marriage" in the religious realm.
24 posted on 09/14/2009 7:14:28 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Truthsearcher

I think that is absolute crap about the flexibility of sexual attraction. I’ve known that I liked the opposite sex - exclusively - since I was a little kid. My gay friends tell me the same regarding their attractions.

As far as the written contract, clearly that’s not the case when it comes to a variety of government defined benefits.


25 posted on 09/14/2009 7:17:02 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: ALPAPilot
A child has a right to a mother and a father. Ok, and under the current system, how many children actually enjoy the benefits of that right? "how's that workin for us"
26 posted on 09/14/2009 7:18:39 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Dr. Ursus

27 posted on 09/14/2009 7:22:15 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono
"If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon."

Faulty syllogism is becoming the default mental condition in this country.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

28 posted on 09/14/2009 7:23:16 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: babble-on

Their relationships can be recognized: as civil partnerships. Beyond that, what exactly constitutes
the recognition that they seem to need?

What they want is universal approval and support for
their arrangement, an an equal footing with marriage,
which would be a lie. It is not marriage, cannot be marriage and should not be marriage.

I agree with you that these feelings are probably programmed into people by some means or another (Anne Heche notwithstanding), why else would someone be gay and subject themselves to such misery. But, heres another fact of life:
marriage exists because its takes a man and a woman to make a baby. It defines the relationship (has done so for eons).

Regardless of however many gay celebrities pair up and adopt kids, they cannot change this fact.


29 posted on 09/14/2009 7:23:32 AM PDT by rahbert (All Kenny G, all the time)
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To: JoeProBono

Well the answer of course is a threesome....


30 posted on 09/14/2009 7:28:18 AM PDT by freebilly ( No wonder all the left has a boner for Obama.... There's "Cialis" in "SoCIALISt")
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To: MEGoody

Thats why he is called Whoa Cheong


31 posted on 09/14/2009 7:28:52 AM PDT by Augustinian monk
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To: babble-on

So based on the anecdotal evidence of yourself and what a few friends have told you, you are capable of drawing conclusions about the entire sexuality of the human race.

And I suppose all the people whose sexuality have changed are just lying.


32 posted on 09/14/2009 7:29:55 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: rahbert
I agree with you that these feelings are probably programmed into people by some means or another (Anne Heche notwithstanding), why else would someone be gay and subject themselves to such misery.

People engage in self-destructive behavior all the time, particularly if it satisfies an adolescent need to thumb one's nose at authority.

Many homosexuals I've known absolutely revel in their status as outsiders, to the point that I'm convinced that they honestly enjoy being provocative more than any real desire to be "normalized."

In the same way that "just wanting to be left alone" morphed into "we want to be seen as the same as hetero husband and wife," you can be sure that their demands on society will not end when they are allowed to "marry."

33 posted on 09/14/2009 7:30:20 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: freebilly

34 posted on 09/14/2009 7:32:19 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: babble-on

I don’t know about that. After recently having bad reactions to xenoestrogens (chemically created estrogens) found in many common products I am starting to have a different take on homosexuality. Extra estrogen makes females more masculine and males more feminine. Xenoestrogens are found in just about all hair/body care products. They are also in most plastics, including plastics that food is stored in. Bovine growth hormones also contain xenoestrogens.


35 posted on 09/14/2009 7:32:59 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: ALPAPilot

excellent post and so true

my wife could not manage our three hellions alone without some male help...at least not the same


36 posted on 09/14/2009 7:33:05 AM PDT by wardaddy (Bro and his czars...we have tar, feathers and rails waiting...and a road outta town..)
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To: ALPAPilot
63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (Source: U.S. D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census)

90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes

85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes (Source: Center for Disease Control)

80% of rapists motivated with displaced anger come from fatherless homes (Source: Criminal Justice & Behavior, Vol. 14, p. 403-26, 1978.)

71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes (Source: National Principals Association Report on the State of High Schools.)

75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes (Source: Rainbows for all God`s Children.)

70% of juveniles in state-operated institutions come from fatherless homes (Source: U.S. Dept. of Justice, Special Report, Sept 1988)

85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home (Source: Fulton Co. Georgia jail populations, Texas Dept. of Corrections 1992)

What you're really saying is this is what the Great Society did to the black community in America....

37 posted on 09/14/2009 7:33:13 AM PDT by freebilly ( No wonder all the left has a boner for Obama.... There's "Cialis" in "SoCIALISt")
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To: JoeProBono

Yowser! I was thinkin’ more along the lines of me and a couple lispick L-beans....


38 posted on 09/14/2009 7:34:41 AM PDT by freebilly ( No wonder all the left has a boner for Obama.... There's "Cialis" in "SoCIALISt")
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To: Dallas59
What about her? She didn’t have to say “Yes”.

Absolutely. It's not as though homosexuality is all "hush hush" even without homo marriage. Saying she needs homo marriage to be able to "come out of the closet" is ludicrous.

39 posted on 09/14/2009 7:42:11 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: babble-on
He’s basically right, and I agree with him. Sexuality is not a choice, it’s programmed, and it’s stupid to pretend A. that people can change, and B. that people born that way are not entitled to have society legally recognize their long term committed relationships.

Question: Do you support adult incest and polygamy?

40 posted on 09/14/2009 7:44:59 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Barack Obama - The wrong man, at the wrong time, for the wrong country.)
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