Posted on 09/10/2009 8:43:41 PM PDT by Chet 99
When John M. Venezia's employer hadn't seen or heard from him, state police at Swiftwater were contacted Tuesday and went to check on Venezia, 48, at his Red Rock Road home in Paradise Township.
Police knocked on the door and no one answered. Further investigation revealed Venezia lying unconscious in the hallway due to a medical condition.
Police entered the home and noticed Venezia's right hand had been bitten off by a pit bull found in the home. As police tried to render aid, the pit bull lunged at a trooper and was fatally shot.
Paramedics arrived on scene and took Venezia to Pocono Medical Center, where he remains in intensive care. No information has been released on what exactly Venezia's medical condition is.
“That’s why I say: Hey, man, nice shot!”
Man, oh man, oh man. What sheer horror.
I’m speechless.
Good grief, how horrible.
I read these stories and then have to hear people say “OH, not our dog!” Then the following week I hear another one has been adopted. Young couples...their choice, but then when the kids come along....
I don’t think a law is the answer, but I sure am tired of hearing these horror stories.
How many of you here are pit bull owners? Let’s have a show of hands.
Don’t know why they felt the need to mention the breed. Dogs don’t come out of the womb with a disposition to bite peoples’ hands off. Somebody seriously, seriously abused that dog.
Why shouldn’t they mention the breed? Is it politically incorrect too?
In most any story, they’d mention the breed.
Not saying they shouldn't, I'm saying I don't see why they would choose to, since it has nothing to do with the reason for the dog's action. A DOG doesn't bite someones' hand off because it's a [breed], you have to beat the crap out of a dog (any dog) to get that.
They mentioned pit bull because that sells.
The problem is that some dogs just snap.
My parents have had toy poodles that have bitten the fire out of me. I would liked to have kick the fire out of them but my parents wouldn’t allow me to lay a finger on their sweet little dogs.
Truthfully, these were some of the meanest dogs I’ve ever seen. I believe part of the problem is that they’re highly breed. It has nothing to do with the way they’re treated. These dogs are terribly spoiled.
If a toy poodle attacks an elderly person or a child, they can most likely defend themself and survive. That’s not as likely to happen if it’s a highly breed pit bull.
My daughter has 2 standard poodles...One is sweet and is a blue(called a blue poodle because their skin is bluish/black) The other is a blond, named Maisy, they call her stupy which is short for stupid...Don’t know if its the dog or the fact that she is a blond. (just kidding to any blonds on this thread) Any dog small enough to stomp on is not a danger, but ankle biters can be a pain..but they rarely cause one to need plastic surgery to have their face put back on..
LOL priceless
And therefore, they do not serve the primary purpose that a dog is supposed to serve - guarding the house, and those within it. I have always had dogs that would easily take a pitbull out, and have dispatched a rotweiller. They whoop up on bears for fun -
And I have never feared for my children in the least - In fact, my children could not be more protected, without my own physical presence... And I sleep very well at night. No fool is going to take on me and those dogs. It won't happen.
What others have said here is true - A dog does not turn on a man without being beaten into it, or if he doesn't respect the man as the "alpha dog". It just won't happen. Nor will he attack the children, or the wife, who are members of his pack - He will die defending them.
What is true is that there are many who do not understand what a dog is for, and how to speak to the dog in his own language. What they are, they are by instinct. It doesn't work to try to make them something else.
Our old dog has never bitten anyone, but I have been very wary of him nipping me as I have been changing a bandage on his leg these last few days. I figure if he’s like me and is getting grouchy in his old age, he might just say “I’ve had enough!” when I tug a bit too hard pulling the bandage off his wound. He just lies there - but maybe he’s just waiting for the perfect moment and then......
People with small dogs usually are not looking for protection...
Injury is a different story - and frankly, I wouldn't blame him much if he did get a bit nippy. It's a pretty normal means of expressing displeasure. That's a far cry from a full on attack though, or even drawing blood...
Even so, I have seldom had to resort to a muzzle - I'll take a nip or two, without even getting very cross at him, since he's hurting... Generally, he knows you're fixin' on him, and that has happened enough times that he trusts you for it.
But then my dogs have always been a bit nippy, under certain circumstances... Like if the boys are tussling, the dog will go after the one he figures is hurting the other too much, and nip him on the butt and legs to defend the other, or will grab the hand of one of the smaller kids to forcefully lead her away from something he figures is dangerous to her... But the dogs have never drawn blood, not ever. Maybe pressure marks, but that suits me fine. He's just doing his job.
I figure if he’s like me and is getting grouchy in his old age [...]
Yeah, they definitely do get grumpy when they get old... Often arthritic too.. Hopefully y'all have an old farmer's vet around... There are remedies that work pretty good. I tend to feed mine alot of fish when they get older, seems to help... But then mine take to fish better than most, being Malamute/Wolf crossed and fed raw fish (raw meat of all sorts) pretty well all along. It is something most dogs don't like to eat.
I lost my last to old age last spring at 13 years. I have an Ozzie Shepherd pup right now being raised up as a companion for my next one, which I will get in the spring. I prefer a German Shepherd/Malamute/Wolf cross. They wind up between 150-200 lbs., are smart, can pack a fair load, and are well bred for Montana winters. There really isn't much I wouldn't put them up against, outside of a full bred wolf, but it takes a fair hand to manage one. Definitely not a city dog.
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