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GERMANS SHELL WARSAW, RESIDENTS IN FLIGHT (9/6/39)
Microfiche-New York Times archives, McHenry Library, U.C. Santa Cruz | 9/6/39 | Otto D. Tolischus, Turner Catledge, G.H. Archambault, John MacCormac

Posted on 09/06/2009 6:03:06 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: milhist; realtime; worldwarii
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To: henkster
Also, the article mentions that the Poles are making quick counter-attacks with the “finest cavalry in the world.”

This was entirely horse cavalry, correct? The guy who wrote this article would have benefited from a critique by General Patton.

21 posted on 09/06/2009 2:09:36 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: henkster

Paulus had made his bones on the General Staff. Basically a staff jockey. He did much of the work on the final draft of BARBAROSSA.

Prior to receiving command of Sixth Army, Paulus had been sent by Halder to North Africa to evaluate Rommel. the report was not favorable [and fit in nicely with Halder’s opinion of Rommel]. So it really is amusing to see the two of them, in late 1942 - early 1943 faced with the same choice: obeying Hitler, and sacrificing their arnmies, or disobeying Hitler and saving their men. Guess who chose which?


22 posted on 09/06/2009 2:34:50 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: henkster

Problem that showed up clearly in Russia was the combination of distance, poor road net and largely ‘leg’ infantry formations [with largely horse drawn transport] comprising the bulk of the German Infantry Divisions. What is truly amazing is not that they failed to close the cauldrons, but that they achieved the marches they did, at speed.


23 posted on 09/06/2009 2:38:05 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Great reading. And now we know why the French were so vague in their reports.


24 posted on 09/06/2009 3:08:51 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

It was entirely horse cavalry, but not really intended to fight as such, with lances and sabres and whatnot. Instead, the proper 18th or 19th Century term would have been “Dragoons.” They were armed with rifles, usually light carbines, and in the event of a firefight, intended to dismount and fight on foot as light infantry. By 1939, the whole horse thing was intended for mobility to the battlefield, not on it.


25 posted on 09/06/2009 5:43:24 PM PDT by henkster (The frog has noticed the increase in water temperature)
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To: henkster

Sounds like mounted infantry, They were doing this in the US Civil War, not a good idea against tank cavalry.


26 posted on 09/06/2009 6:09:46 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I want to stay at the Hotel Empire!


27 posted on 09/06/2009 10:01:42 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Churchill thought the Irish might be hiding and supplying U-Boats?


28 posted on 09/06/2009 10:05:52 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: abb
6 Sep 1939 - South Africa declares war on Germany. Also on this day is the Battle of Barking Creek, when a error in identification in the Chain Home Radar system led to RAF aircraft engaging each other over the Thames Estuary

After that blundering bombing raid this must have been really worrying for the top brass.

29 posted on 09/06/2009 10:08:03 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: henkster

I was pretty taken aback by that too. I see a lot of the reporting so far fall more under the category of wishful thinking than reality. I guess it makes sense in a way. In many respects there is not a lot of concrete information and the journalist is left to fill in the blanks, or they have an agenda, or both.


30 posted on 09/06/2009 10:48:46 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (My tagline is an honor student at Free Republic Elementary School.)
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