Since all cops are evil and and presumed guilty,I suppose it is absurd to suggest that someone transporting a coke dealer and who goes to such links to evade capture might in fact be the guilty party.
The logic expressed on this thread seems to be- if anyone tries to arrest you, if they claim to be police run then down or shoot them because they are probably not; if they show you badges run them down or shoot them because the badges are probably fake. Why stop there, the uniforms can be fakes, patrol cars could be props, maybe its not even a real police station.
What really confuses me is that I love the FreeRepublic and its posters, I find the site to be a beacon and refuge of rationality,facts and common sense on an internet full of BS, except when it comes to police arrests or raids gone bad and then FR seams to morph into a paranoid anti-law enforcement rants, every encounter between police and citizens is immediately seen as another “Ruby Ridge”.
It may turn out to be as you all speculate, a case of gross police misconduct, but at the moment you have not anything like sufficient evidence to support that conclusion.
“I suppose it is absurd to suggest that someone transporting a coke dealer and who goes to such links to evade capture might in fact be the guilty party”
Yet your logic is impeccable, the evidence that the pastor is guilty (he knew his passenger was a drug dealer and that the people confronting him were police, not armed assailants) is irrefutable.
1)Since they had gone to the trouble of identifying the woman with the pastor as a "coke dealer", how much harder could it have been to identify a small town pastor when you have access to his vehicle's license tag number?
2)How did they know that he knew her to be a coke dealer?
Woe be it to our society when someone is held to account for the transgressions of any stranded motorist or hitchhiker they offer assistance to.
3)"Links" to evade capture?
So let me get this straight... If immediately after using an ATM, two guys in civilian clothes jump out of a vehicle that can best be described as the "thug vehicle of choice" and start running towards me with weapons drawn, I should hang around and submit to whatever they demand because they just MIGHT be cops?
Strange, but on nearly every thread of this nature, we are treated to a lecture by some bootlicker on how we should consider how cops, TRAINED cops, are required to make split second judgment calls in life or death situations. Now, a young, small town PREACHER who is completely oblivious to any danger is supposed to react in a split second to being surprised by multiple armed attackers without resorting to the "fight or flight" instinct?
Now we hold unarmed preachers to a higher standard than trained, armed police officers?
Amazing.
“Since all cops are evil and and presumed guilty”
You do a very nice job of twisting the content of this thread.
“The logic expressed on this thread seems to be- if anyone tries to arrest you, if they claim to be police run then down or shoot them because they are probably not;”
No, it’s not.
Bootlicker alert!
What bull crap. What Gestapo boot licking crap.
An Escalade pulls up to where you have just left an ATM, and screaming guys in civilian clothes jump out with shiny bling bling around their necks. From that, we are supposed to think "oh, police," and not "OMG, I'm about to be robbed, carjaced or killed?"
Sorry, but I'm thinking option #2, and if you're a cop and not retarded, you had better give some consideration to the fact that that is the way that 95% of normal people will be thinking.
Right. A couple of gangbangers with bling around their necks jump out of a black SUV waving guns = cops did nothing wrong
Plain clothes cops jumping out of a Cadillac Escalade, the vehicle of choice for thugs everywhere, indeed the cops probably seized it from a drug dealer. They had their guns drawn even though the pastor had committed no crime. He had just used the ATM and I am sure he thought he was being robbed. Have you seen the video? These cops belong in prison. Certainly they are going to hell for killing an innocent pastor.
Excellent idea.