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CDC H1N1 forced quarantine docs leak (Forced Quarantine Orders - FL & IA)
ZeroHedge ^ | 09/02/2009 | Project Mayhem

Posted on 09/03/2009 11:56:34 AM PDT by kara2008

Last night Zero Hedge obtained some interesting documents from the CDC web site. They contain blank 'forced quarantine' orders from Iowa and Florida regarding novel H1N1 -- including quarantine to a 'secure detention center'-- which appear to be recent -- dated April 2009....

{Copy of document} FL Quarantine to Detention Facility Order Apr 09.

{Copy of document} FL Quarantine to Residence Order Apr 09

(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Local News
KEYWORDS: florida; h1n1; iowa; swinefl
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I live in Florida, so this is disturbing news...

From the article...

Perhaps now is the time to educate ourselves rather than remaining blissfully ignorant. Perhaps now is the time to confront our government officials with questions. How many states have drawn up plans like those above? Do the authorities plan on initiating forced quarantines? Do the authorities plan on initiating mandatory vaccinations?

1 posted on 09/03/2009 11:56:35 AM PDT by kara2008
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To: kara2008
CDC H1N1 forced quarantine docs leak

I'm not sure how something is leaked from a publicly-available website.

Also, the documents are pretty inocuous - the Iowa doc was discussed in some deal over the last couple of days, and it is meant to deal with those who break home quarantine or who cannot maintain a home quarantine.

2 posted on 09/03/2009 12:01:10 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: kara2008

How much force are they authorized to use to force compliance, up to and including death??


3 posted on 09/03/2009 12:01:56 PM PDT by Gator113 (It's about stupidity, stupid. IMPEACH HERE, IMPEACH NOW.)
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To: dirtboy

Funny how the CDC does not have the guts to talk like this about aids patients, but let a slightly above average flu go around.....


4 posted on 09/03/2009 12:02:34 PM PDT by DonaldC
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To: kara2008
Earlier discussion on Iowa document
5 posted on 09/03/2009 12:03:44 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: DonaldC

AIDS is not airborne like the flu. You have to engage in clearly-risky behavior in almost all cases to get AIDS.


6 posted on 09/03/2009 12:04:26 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Yea, but aids is always 100% fatal, the flu is not.


7 posted on 09/03/2009 12:05:28 PM PDT by DonaldC
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To: Gator113
From the Iowa document:

The Department has determined that it is necessary to quarantine your movement to a specific facility to prevent further spread of this disease. The Department has determined that quarantine in your home and other less restrictive alternatives are not acceptable because [insert the reason home quarantine is not acceptable, the person violated a previously issued home quarantine order, the person does not have an appropriate home setting conducive to home quarantine, etc.]

The way I read it, this is meant for two cases - when someone violates home quarantine, or when they cannot maintain home quarantine (such as a boarding house).

Quarantine has been around for some time - a couple of folks on that thread discussed their quarantine experiences from decades ago.

8 posted on 09/03/2009 12:06:33 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: DonaldC
Yea, but aids is always 100% fatal, the flu is not.

Once again, I'm not going to get AIDS if I pass an AIDS patient on the street.

Also, AIDS is no longer 100 percent fatal - Magic Johnson has been alive for what, 20 or so years since he announced he has AIDS?

9 posted on 09/03/2009 12:07:29 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: kara2008

“Great voice out of the temple saying to the
seven angels [or messages], Go your ways, and
pour out the vials [bowls] of the wrath of God
upon the earth.”

Revelation 16:1


10 posted on 09/03/2009 12:09:16 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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11 posted on 09/03/2009 12:09:29 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: kara2008; drjulie
From the link above - a Freeper with direct experience in the matter:

People are over reacting. I’m chairman of a county board of health in Iowa. These policies are passed and enacted at the county level (which is a good thing as it is easier to hold people accountable at lower levels of government). Such policies were passed as part of our preparation for flu pandemic. It gives us tools in a “worst case” scenario. Our policy requires us to provide care for anyone quarantined so it would be a huge undertaking and not something we would want to do unless absolutely necessary. At this point, there is no reason to enact mandatory quarantines for H1N1. We are not even close.

72 posted on Tuesday, September 01, 2009 10:01:12 AM by drjulie

12 posted on 09/03/2009 12:10:57 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Kartographer

These documents are state documents that have nothing to do with Obama.


13 posted on 09/03/2009 12:11:21 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Damn, I am going to lose sleep over that one.


14 posted on 09/03/2009 12:16:30 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

I guess you don’t want the occasional annoying fact to get in the way of your posts.


15 posted on 09/03/2009 12:18:02 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
Also, AIDS is no longer 100 percent fatal - Magic Johnson has been alive for what, 20 or so years since he announced he has AIDS?

I thought he was HIV positive, and did not have full-blown AIDS. There is a difference.

16 posted on 09/03/2009 12:18:34 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: kara2008

Interesting....
I don’t doubt to what extent this administration would go to use a public health situation for politcal purposes, but I also wonder when anything is “leaked” is it to just cause fear and anxiety? We are being bombarded from all directions with creepy issues that may be more psychological warfare than real.
Anything that hints of quarantine and “rounding up” has the potential to cause major backlash. This administration is getting a good dose of backlash lately.


17 posted on 09/03/2009 12:19:42 PM PDT by two23 (czars are for commies)
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To: dirtboy

Not really and thanks for pointing that out. I’ll be sure and work on it.


18 posted on 09/03/2009 12:19:51 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: IYAS9YAS
I thought he was HIV positive, and did not have full-blown AIDS. There is a difference.

OK, he has been HIV-positive for, what, 20 years, without getting AIDS?

19 posted on 09/03/2009 12:19:59 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: kara2008; NFHale; Shelayne; Quix; Star Traveler; Sensei Ern; Das Outsider; PROCON; ...

Is there an opportunity...

Could there be nuance here...

Might it be possible...

for the government to use vaccinations as a way to
herd (cull) dissenters and Christians out of the
mainstream? Those who are vaccinated, get a “mark”
and those who don’t? Well, you know. Of course
who would want to buy or trade from someone who has
deliberatly jeopardized his neighbor by not taking
the the mark ... er ... innoculation?

Yeah, I know. Way too obvious.


20 posted on 09/03/2009 12:20:38 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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