"Here's to You Mr. Jefferson" Awesome! by Mike Church

Hey sonny here's more from Jefferson.

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,..
We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world... And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence,...

Those are 'real keepers'. They're from the Declaration of Independence, which I believe Jefferson wrote. (/s)

[All you leftwing moonbats attempt to 'prove' Jefferson was an atheist - that dog won't hunt.]

Fisher Ames, a Federalist by any other means, who suppressed free speech by using editors on “his side” and installing them as postmasters to suppress Democratic-Republican publications. Also supported the Sedition Acts by the way. So who exactly was promoting a “Republic” when the Federalist were pissing all over the individual States?

Seems like the pot calling the kettle black if you ask me plus sour grapes since the Federalist Party (Natural aristocracy promoted by fellow MA, John Adams anyone) was beaten down and thankfully, and never returned to prominence. An influential member of the Essex Junto, good gravy, what hypocrisy.

People like Jefferson’s pal Tom Paine were over in France hoping to export that type of revolution to America. The threat was real. Paine was in it for the money—working with the low-life to steal Spanish property. There are comparisons between what some in Jefferson’s faction were doing and the ANSWER/Cindy Sheehan gang. At least Federalists didn’t roll over for it. They tried to stop it.

History, of course, records the Jacobin faction in America as great defenders of liberty. I, obviously, do not agree.

Funny, the Empire of Liberty was guillotines and unstable governments that wiped out the Constitution? The Federalists were too chummy with the Crown. Jay (cough, cough) Treaty, and the hardcore Federalist, a.k.a., Essex Junto actually helped the British, especially during the War of 1812. Come on, Jefferson wanted to deal with France but also other countries as well.

The Federalist were connected to the hip with Britain and would not let go. 1) Because members (Hamilton, Adams) actually wanted to set up an aristocracy made of connected men and their offspring, with Britain having a greater influence 2) Were scared, even after beating Britain for their Independence, of the Crown's retaliation.

Individual liberty sort of broke free after the election of 1800. Before that was too much reliance on Britain, France was shut out despite their help during the Revolution, suppression of Speech (Even when the 1st Amendment went into effect), Sedition Acts (Good gravy, American tyranny anyone), tax and spend policies (Although Jefferson made his "land deal", he cut taxes which reduced the debt by 1/3), Jay Treaty, John Marshall (Ahhhhhh!!!!!) etc... The Federalist were the modern day Democrats. Thank God they imploded due to power struggles (Which tells you something right there).

Slave owners such as Jefferson promoted "individual liberty".

Yup...just like the Democratic party of today. All talk.

Jefferson never freed his slaves not because it was like, you know, the cultural theme of the day to have them but because he took mortgages out on his property. He was more interested in living high on the hog than liberty.

If by individual liberty you are referring to civil liberties, the founders and framers never used the term. Blackstone, English Common Law and the Federalist papers all used the singular: civil liberty. Only after WWII did the plural come into widespread use. It was, as we know, a concept promoted by bolsheviks: the founders of the ACLU.

The difference between the two is the difference between liberal and license, between republicanism and ochlarchy (and the tyranny which results from mob rule).

Over two centuries ago, the same Jefferson who believed that each should use reason to question even the existence of God, also penned our Declaration of Independence which, he wrote, reflected "the American mind" of the time and included references to God in four distinct manifestations--as Creator, as Divine Providence, as Nature's God, and as the Supreme Judge of the World.

In others of his writings he stated that Jesus "preached philanthropy and universal charity and benevolence," that "a system of morals is presented to us [by Jesus], which, if filled up in the style and spirit of the rich fragments he left us, would be the most perfect and sublime that has ever been taught by man."

He wrote, "His moral doctrines...were more pure and perfect than those of the most correct of the philosophers...and they went far beyond both in inculcating universal philanthropy, not only to kindred and friends, to neighbors and countrymen, but to all mankind, gathering all into one family, under the bonds of love, charity, peace, common wants, and common aids," which, Jefferson said, "will evince the peculiar superiority of the system of Jesus over all others."

Comparing the Hebrew code which, according to Jefferson, "laid hold of actions only," "He [Jesus] pushed his scrutinies into the heart of man; erected his tribunal in the region of his thoughts, and purified the waters at the fountain head."

That Jefferson cut out the statements which he believed to be directly attributable to Jesus, pasted them into a little book which he kept by his bed and, by his own account, read from them daily, might lead one to conclude that his political philosphy probably was influenced by what he considered to be the superiority of the "philosophy" of Jesus.

It is unlikely that any person alive today has read the writings of as many of the great philosophers as Jefferson. His talents and abilities were legend. His devotion to liberty and to the ideas essential to liberty were based on simple principles, some of which, undoubtedly, came from his understanding of the basic law underlying all valid human law: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

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