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HITLER DEMANDS BRITAIN ABANDON POLISH ALLIANCE (8/27/39)
Microfiche-New York Times archives, McHenry Library, U.C. Santa Cruz | 8/27/39 | Ferdinand Kuhn Jr., Jerzy Szapiro, Otto D. Tolischus, Hugh Byas, Hanson W. Baldwin

Posted on 08/27/2009 6:07:11 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
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1 posted on 08/27/2009 6:07:11 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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After . . . a plentiful exchange of letters, Hitler was now resigned to Mussolini’s leaving him in the lurch. Late on the night of August 26 he got off one more note to his Axis partner. It was dispatched by telegram from Berlin at 12:10 A.M. on August 27 and reached Mussolini that morning at 9 o’clock.

DUCE:

I have received your communication on your final attitude. I respect the reasons and motives which led you to take this decision. In certain circumstances it can nevertheless work out well.

In my opinion, however, the prerequisite is that, at least until the outbreak of the struggle, the world should have no idea of the attitude Italy intends to adopt. I therefore cordially request you to support my struggle psychologically with your press or by other means. I would also ask you, Duce, if you possibly can, by demonstrative military measures, at least to compel Britain and France to tie down certain of their forces, or at all events to leave them in uncertainty.

But, Duce, the most important thing is this: If, as I have said, it should come to a major war, the issue in the East will be decided before the two western Powers can score a success. Then, this winter, at latest in the spring, I shall attack in the West with forces which will be at least equal to those of France and Britain . . .

I must now ask a great favor of you, Duce. In this difficult struggle you and your people can best help me by sending me Italian workers, for both industrial and agricultural purposes . . . In specially commending this request of mine to your generosity, I thank you for all the efforts you have made for our common cause.

ADOLF HITLER

The Duce replied meekly late in the afternoon that the world would “not know before the outbreak of hostilities what the attitude of Italy is” – he would keep the secret well. He would also tie down as many Anglo-French military and naval forces as possible and he would send Hitler the Italian workers he requested.

William L. Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

2 posted on 08/27/2009 6:08:28 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Back in March we saw a review of “Love Affair.” This snippet from that movie is a number that made the 1939 Hit Parade

Wishing

3 posted on 08/27/2009 6:09:05 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; GRRRRR; 2banana; henkster; ...
The Developments in Europe – 2
British Stand Firm – 2-3
Poles Don’t Expect An Immediate War* - 4
Nazi Photo of ‘Terror’ Shows Snow in August – 4
Nazis Rush Arming – 5-6
Japan’s Army Men Back Policy Shift** – 7
All Americans Safe in Tientsin Floods – 8
Serious Deficiencies in the Army Are Revealed in Plattsburg Games*** – 9-11

* A dozen Warsaw shopkeepers were arrested and sent to the concentration camp at Bereza for raising prices or refusing to sell the required amount of foodstuffs.

** Japanese soldiers, reflecting the Tokyo government’s displeasure over Germany’s signing of a nonaggression pact with Russia, were reported to have slapped the faces of several Germans at the barriers to the foreign concessions.

Britons had been the chief victims of these incidents previously.

Two weeks ago there was a story about an American woman being slapped. It is time for retaliation. I suggest we send Larry, Moe and Curly to China.

*** But there is still a long, long way to go before the First Army or any army under the American flag becomes in truth a combat force.

* * *

Both horsed and mechanized cavalry are useful to any army, essential in certain situations.

* * *

A battalion of the 165th Infantry and a squadron of the 101st Cavalry, about 300 men in all, [arrived] at Grand Central, 2:30 A. M. daylight time yesterday.

Aren’t these amazing times? In just a few years the 101st will be using airplanes for some of their trips. Of course, they will have to carry their own luggage.

4 posted on 08/27/2009 6:13:00 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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"Terror" pictures have snow in them! That's absurd. I was in Cracow just last July and everything was nice. Here's a picture of the kids at the pool.


5 posted on 08/27/2009 8:09:20 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (My tagline is an honor student at Free Republic Elementary School.)
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Got a few sound bites today. First we have a German Foreign Minister (It doesn't say who it is and I don't recognize the voice) warning the Poles that basically things have reached a critical mass (It is translated too)

Now for some news broadcasts.

The BBC carries the Czech Ambassador in London

CBS carries H.V. Kaltenborn

6 posted on 08/27/2009 8:42:50 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (My tagline is an honor student at Free Republic Elementary School.)
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It doesn't say who it is and I don't recognize the voice

It's not Ribbentrop, himself?

These are great soundbites. The Czech ambassador's is especially chilling.

7 posted on 08/27/2009 8:57:38 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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It doesn’t say its Ribbentrop and it really doesn’t sound like other recordings of him so I’m thinking it is not. Probably some subordinate.

The Czech ambassador is pretty interesting isn’t it. He really just tells it like it is and basically say, he has the right to after what happened to his country. I agree.


8 posted on 08/27/2009 10:22:45 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (My tagline is an honor student at Free Republic Elementary School.)
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Well alllll riiiighty then, I guess the Czech ambassador should have gone down in history a bit more prominently.
9 posted on 08/27/2009 11:29:16 AM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how.)
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Poles Don’t Expect An Immediate War

Is is conceivable that the Poles really didn't expect an immediate war, or were they just keeping their mouths shut publicly?

The Japanese tactic of slapping foreigners while it humiliated the foreigners probably was designed to increase the contempt for foreigners among the Japanese military. The reaction by a Japanese in the equivalent situation can only be imagined.

The US military was in great shape I see, if it was possible for Hitler to attack us first, he would have won the war.

10 posted on 08/27/2009 11:59:10 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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August 27, 1939. Poland defeats Hungary, the best soccer team in the world at that time 4-2. It was to be the “Last Game”, as it is known as in Poland.

It provided the last joy Poles would have for many years.


11 posted on 08/27/2009 3:20:45 PM PDT by dfwgator
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August 27, 1939. Poland defeats Hungary, the best soccer team in the world at that time 4-2.

You scooped me! One of tomorrow's headlines (we're about ready to run the 8/28 edition) is "Poles Dig Trenches and Watch Soccer." But the writer, Jerzy Szapiro, forgot to include the outcome of the match in his story. Or maybe it was that Hungarian editor spinning the news again.

12 posted on 08/27/2009 4:01:46 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I saw where Gen. Drum was in charge of the botched maneuvers. He was a protege of Pershing, and many (including Drum himself) thought that when war did come, Drum would command the combat forces in Europe. He had a very high opinion of himself. Unfortunately for him, he was stuck in old 1917 tactics, and would not have fared well in modern warfare. Fortunately for us, Gen. Marshall was wise enough to see it and Drum never held a major command.


13 posted on 08/27/2009 6:06:10 PM PDT by henkster (The frog has noticed the increase in water temperature)
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Poles don’t expect an immediate war? Wow. They’re so scared they were yammering nonsense.


14 posted on 08/27/2009 6:44:27 PM PDT by GeronL (Liberalism: The gift that keeps on taking ... .. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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Britains Territorial Army women’s auxiliary was paying $7 per week?

Thats a bit exorbitant


15 posted on 08/27/2009 6:45:59 PM PDT by GeronL (Liberalism: The gift that keeps on taking ... .. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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"Poles don’t expect an immediate war? Wow. They’re so scared they were yammering nonsense."

quoting the article: "The Poles look forward to a quite Sunday confident that there will be no outbreak of hostilities at least within the next twenty-four hours -- which is a comforting thought these days. Political circles base this view on the news reaching the Warsaw Government on Chancellor Hitler's proposals to Sir Neville Henderson, the British Ambassador..."

Much criticized, Poles were not as stupid as sometimes alleged. It was their choice not to follow the appeasement example of Czechoslovakia. Instead, they paid the unimaginable price of courage. Czechs also paid a price, but nothing like that of Poland. Today we admire the Poles for their courage against Nazism, and the Czechs for their courage against the Soviet Union -- Prague spring, etc.

16 posted on 08/28/2009 9:08:27 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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Poland might have stood a chance to hold out for awhile against Germany, but what they didn’t count on was also having to deal with the Soviets.

The fact is that Stalin deserves considerable blame for starting the war, that killed millions of his own subjects.


17 posted on 08/28/2009 9:11:41 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Today we admire the Poles for their courage against Nazism, and the Czechs for their courage against the Soviet Union -- Prague spring, etc.

If it wasn't for Solidarnosc, we'd probably still be dealing with the Soviet Union today.

18 posted on 08/28/2009 9:12:37 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BroJoeK

ah missed that.. yep thats pretty immiediate


19 posted on 08/28/2009 9:16:42 AM PDT by GeronL (Liberalism: The gift that keeps on taking ... .. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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"If it wasn't for Solidarnosc, we'd probably still be dealing with the Soviet Union today."

Totally agree. I was just trying to say something nice about Czechs, not put down Poles. ;-)

20 posted on 08/28/2009 11:08:43 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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