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Hawaii Confirms Obama Birth Certificate Not Released
NewsMax.Com ^ | August 6, 2009 | David A. Patten

Posted on 08/06/2009 2:50:46 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american

Contrary to widespread media reports, Hawaii's health officials have not publicly released President Obama's original, "long-form" birth certificate, state officials confirm to Newsmax. Many media reports have insisted the president's actual birth certificate is available on the Internet for anyone to download. It is not.....

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Compare excerpt #1 with #2 below. Conflicting info spoken by Press Secretary Robert Gibbs.

Excerpt- (1) Contrary to widespread media reports, Hawaii's health officials have not publicly released President Obama's original, "long-form" birth certificate, state officials confirm to Newsmax.

Excerpt- (2) ".....why the president doesn't simply release his long-form birth certificate, Press Secretary Robert Gibbs replied incredulously: "You're looking for the president's birth certificate? It's on the Internet."

1 posted on 08/06/2009 2:50:47 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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2 posted on 08/06/2009 2:53:51 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: real_patriotic_american

And the following documents not release by Obama-

1. Certified copy of original birth certificate
2. Columbia University transcripts
3. Columbia thesis paper
4. Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5. Harvard University transcripts
6. Illinois State Senate records
7. Illinois State Senate schedule
8. Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9. Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mothers
10. Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11. Occidental College Transcripts
12. Parent’s marriage Certificate
13. Record of baptism
14. Selective Service registration records
15. Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16. Scholarly articles
17. Access to his grandmother (Obama’s grandmother has since passed away from cancer)
18. List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
19. Punahou grade school records


3 posted on 08/06/2009 2:54:04 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: real_patriotic_american

Per Article 2, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, one must be a natural born American citizen to serve as President. Barack Obama is NOT eligible for the Presidency because he is not a natural born citizen. The law that applied during the time of Obama’s birth (in effect from December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986) stated- “If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.” We know that Obama’s father was a Kenyan citizen (a British Colony) and his mother just 18 at Obama’s birth...” (thus, she would had to have been aged 21 in order for Obama to be eligible). John A. Bingham, primary framer, 14th Amendment, states- “Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” Obama himself has stated that he is the son of a Kenyan- Kenya being a foreign sovereignty. Thus, Obama is not a natural born citizen even if he were actually born in Hawaii.

Aside from that, I believe Obama was born in Kenya.


4 posted on 08/06/2009 2:55:59 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: LucyT

PING!

Compare excerpt #1 with #2 below. Conflicting info spoken by Press Secretary Robert Gibbs.

Excerpt- (1) Contrary to widespread media reports, Hawaii’s health officials have not publicly released President Obama’s original, “long-form” birth certificate, state officials confirm to Newsmax.

Excerpt- (2) “.....why the president doesn’t simply release his long-form birth certificate, Press Secretary Robert Gibbs replied incredulously: “You’re looking for the president’s birth certificate? It’s on the Internet.”


5 posted on 08/06/2009 2:59:25 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: musicman

Your post #2, I like it! (LOL)


6 posted on 08/06/2009 3:00:43 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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Hawaii's health officials have not publicly released President Obama's original, "long-form" birth certificate, state officials confirm

Just show me the births for 4 Aug., 1961 from all hospitals in Honolulu. That will convince me if BHO's name is on one of the lists.

I am not talking about medical records.

I'm talking about nothing more than the Honolulu Advertiser has already published and is now distributed around the world.

Rather than state vital records (which would have come from the hospitals) the source would be the hospital itself, to wit, Kauikeolani Children's Hospital, I believe is BHO's (latest). birth place.

7 posted on 08/06/2009 3:03:03 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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Thus, Obama is not a natural born citizen even if he were actually born in Hawaii.

Exactly, but you got the other part somewhat garbled. The law required the US Citizen parent to have resided in the US for ten years, five of which had to be after their 14th birthday. Thus she would have needed to be 19. But that only applies to births outside the US. So if he was born outside the US, he wasn't even a citizen, and unless naturalized later, would still not be one.

But his father definitely owned allegiance to a foreign sovereign at the time. That was Queen Elizabeth II of Great Britain, Kenya being a British Crown Colony at the time. By the time of the divorce of Stanley Ann and BHO Sr, it was an independent nation, but of course still a foreign sovereignty.

8 posted on 08/06/2009 3:04:58 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Those newspaper reports don’t prove Obama was born in Hawaii. His grandparents could have gotten his birth registered if Obama’s mother was in Kenya. There are many suspicious stories involving the timeline for Obama’s birth.


9 posted on 08/06/2009 3:07:26 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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I am beginning to think 0 was born in Canada. The time line fit is much better and the “my mother was in Kenya three days before I was born” does not pass the smell test. I could even be convinced that Stanley Ann is NOT his mother since no one has come forth and said they saw her pregnant.
10 posted on 08/06/2009 3:07:49 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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To: real_patriotic_american

They also point out that Obama is the only modern president whose precise place of birth remains undetermined. Honolulu’s Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital has been widely cited as his birthplace, but another Honolulu location has been mentioned as well.

The hospital has declined to address whether Obama was born there. Presidential birthplaces typically receive recognition and commemoration.


11 posted on 08/06/2009 3:09:02 PM PDT by kabar
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Obama would have also relinguished U.S. citizenship if adopted into Indonesia by his stepfather (Soetoro).


12 posted on 08/06/2009 3:09:41 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: real_patriotic_american

Somebody better tell Chrissy Matthews.


13 posted on 08/06/2009 3:11:54 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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I agree in that there is no record of Obama’s mother being anywhere in the preceding months before his birth (except that his grandmother states that she was present when Obama was born in Kenya).

You wrote-
“I am beginning to think 0 was born in Canada. The time line fit is much better and the “my mother was in Kenya three days before I was born” does not pass the smell test. I could even be convinced that Stanley Ann is NOT his mother since no one has come forth and said they saw her pregnant.”


14 posted on 08/06/2009 3:11:59 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: real_patriotic_american

Parents can’t relinquish the US citizenship of a minor.


15 posted on 08/06/2009 3:12:01 PM PDT by kabar
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There was a conflicting report from UPI indicating that OBama was born at Queens Hospital in Hawaii. They also did not confirm it.


16 posted on 08/06/2009 3:13:57 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: Trod Upon

She will have egg on her face when Obama is removed from office.

You wrote-
“Somebody better tell Chrissy Matthews.”


17 posted on 08/06/2009 3:15:56 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: real_patriotic_american

somebody better tell the blow hole oreilly too!!!! anyone have is email addy?


18 posted on 08/06/2009 3:22:42 PM PDT by remaxagnt (`)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Contrary to widespread media reports, Hawaii's health officials have not publicly released President Obama's original, "long-form" birth certificate, state officials confirm to Newsmax. Many media reports have insisted the president's actual birth certificate is available on the Internet for anyone to download. It is not...
Cartoon in message 2 is funny.
19 posted on 08/06/2009 3:25:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: real_patriotic_american

Great article. It really helps when the issue is taken up by credible sources & laid out in a dispassionate way.


20 posted on 08/06/2009 3:25:47 PM PDT by jazminerose
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