Posted on 08/05/2009 7:57:45 PM PDT by Chode
This will be a general purpose thread for F1 news and pings that really don't require a thread of their own.
F1’s growth will not be with race fans, already have them. It’s with the social, party, good time, trendy people…..
giant Dog and Phony show!!!
yeah, i couldn’t watch it either...
“F1’s growth will not be with race fans, already have them. It’s with the social, party, good time, trendy people.”
100%, they learned absolutely nothing from last years Texas race freakshow
it’s all diversity now, diversity of useless eaters
LAS VEGAS — General Motors said Tuesday it has registered with Formula One’s governing body to become an engine supplier starting in 2028 in what is seen as a huge boost for Michael Andretti’s bid to join the global motorsports series.
“We are thrilled that our new Andretti Cadillac F1 entry will be powered by a GM power unit,” GM President Mark Reuss said. “With our deep engineering and racing expertise, we’re confident we’ll develop a successful power unit for the series, and position Andretti Cadillac as a true works team.
“We will run with the very best, at the highest levels, with passion and integrity that will help elevate the sport for race fans around the world.”
The announcement comes ahead of this weekend’s Las Vegas Grand Prix, where three senior GM executives plan to be in attendance to help push Andretti Global’s bid forward with F1.
GM announced in January its partnership with Andretti Global under its Cadillac banner on Andretti’s application to join F1. GM doesn’t have its own F1 power unit and said its effort would be in conjunction with an existing manufacturer.
The FIA approved Andretti’s application in July, but it has yet to be accepted by F1. One of the criticisms has been that GM isn’t really entering F1, just backing Andretti as he uses another brand’s Cadillac-badged engine.
Now, GM has decided to build its own engine. If Andretti gets approved to join an expanded F1 grid, he would have to use another manufacturer’s engine until 2028.
GM said it already has started development and testing of prototype technology, and said building an F1 engine will help the automaker advance in areas including electrification, hybrid technology, sustainable fuels, high-efficiency internal combustion engines, advanced controls, and software systems.
F1 has set new 2026 engine regulations that place an emphasis on sustainable fuels and greater electric power. Six manufacturers have signed with the FIA to supply engines in 2026, including newcomer Audi, which will partner with Sauber. Ford also plans to return to F1 in partnership with three-time reigning champion Red Bull. Honda also plans to return as an official supplier in 2026.
Andretti was the only applicant of seven to meet all the criteria for the FIA to expand the grid from 10 teams to 11, and with a car already built, hoped to be competing in 2025.
The plan had been for Andretti to use an existing engine manufacturer in collaboration with GM. But F1 does not seem impressed with the Andretti application, and The Associated Press reported in October that F1 asked GM to find another team to partner with instead of Andretti Global.
GM then told AP it will team only with Andretti. Even so, one of the arguments against the Andretti application has been that GM would be nothing more than a glorified sponsor with a Cadillac-badged engine.
The registration to become a power unit supplier strengthens GM’s positioning, but Andretti needs a decision from F1 very soon to be ready to compete in 2025. Though he had a deal with Renault to supply his initial engines, it is believed that contract has expired.
Andretti has promised to field a true American and said he wants California native and current IndyCar driver Colton Herta to drive for Andretti Global. Mario Andretti, his father, won the 1978 F1 championship and Michael ran 13 F1 races in 1993. The father and son are among the most successful racers in American open-wheel history and rank third and fourth on IndyCar’s all-time win list.
California businessman Gene Haas owns an F1 team that he got via a 2014 application similar to the process Andretti went through this year. Haas launched in 2016 and plans to again use Kevin Magnussen of Denmark and Nico Hulkenberg of Germany next season. Haas is ranked last among the 10 teams in the constructors standings, while Hulkenberg is 16th and Magnussen is 19th in the driver standings.
Please see post 5,385.
Perhaps you do not know Las Vegas...
I used to work in the Gaming Machine industry (we had an office in LV) but I spent most of my time working with our clients and my 11 employees on the East coast, Indian Gaming (US) and Europe — I was responsible for training our LV Technicians however...( I believe I have been to LV 100+ times).
Las Vegas SHINES at night and it’s all about the spectacle, just like F1.
Should we not have night races? Singapore is especially wonderful...
Just a thought, just a thought.
I agree 100%
I agree 100% and I spent a lot of time in the AC casinos teaching our product to techs, accountants and CFO’s.
The real race fans will watch no matter what so let’s target the new people.
100%
i’ll prolly have to skip the grid walk from now on
As usual Max is correct.
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P1 has been aborted !!! STEWARDS: SESSION WILL NOT BE RESUMED.
Red Flag for possible Manhole Cover vs one of the Ferrari’s and the Ferrari lost the battle. Apparently a bad welding job on cover to hole rim and the Downforce Vacuum sucked the cover loose...
I’m going to speculate that the Barge Board is no longer in Specs.
So I guess now they are going to spend a few hours adding welds to the manhole covers.
I say it’s a plan cooked up by 2tue for totopuffs and hammiebuttboi to get them more suck up TV time.
what are the chances of IndyCars running LV now???
useless eaters that don’t know what F1 even is, but their manager got them a ticket
and where’s harold and his 304???
surely this is the biggest show off of the year right in their backyard
i friggin hate these people...
Cadillac? THAT would be interesting to see! I hope it goes through. Would it mean adding 2 new vehicles to the existing grid though? (Probably)? Can tracks handle 2 more contestants?
By gaming machine industry, did you work on racing simulators or on racing games at all? Or are you talking about gaming machines in casinos?
Reason I ask,is beczuse I was pretty heavy into racing online in video games such as r-factor, assetto corsa, I-Racing. All of which are pretty remarkable games, and give a slight sense of what it must be like to race on a track. The tracks were fairly accurate too, right down to the bumps, dips, corners, curbs etc that you could feel with a force feedback steering wheel as you raced the track.
Thouhg not really “realistic” compared to the real thing, it still was neat to be as close as I’ll ever get to driving a supercar around any tracks.
yes, two more cars, one more pit
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