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'FLYING FORTRESS’ HERE WITH RECORD (8/2/39)
Microfiche-New York Times archives, McHenry Library, U.C. Santa Cruz | 8/2/39 | Hanson W. Baldwin

Posted on 08/02/2009 5:32:54 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: aviation; realtime
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To: beebuster2000

oops. radio was who knows what, finches were japanese. that makes more sense.


21 posted on 08/02/2009 9:49:57 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

flying fortress name.

surprised to see it used here. i only knew it to aply to the B-17
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-17_Flying_Fortress


22 posted on 08/02/2009 9:51:54 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I’m not sure if he did. It wasn’t until October 19th before he even responded to it. Now that may be that he didn’t really get it until then or just was too tied up with other actions at the time which would make sense concidering the current events.

At any rate I would say that once he made the commitment to research the bomb he threw a ton of resources at it. That alone leads me to believe that he did take it pretty seriously. I also image that the sense of urgency probably got worse once V weapons began appearing on the scene even though we had already landed on mainland Europe the week before.

It just occurred to me. Today is the 100th anniversary of the purchase of the first military plane by the United States. 70+30 eh?


23 posted on 08/02/2009 9:53:15 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (If I disagree with you, it is because you are wrong.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

That is a B17, a flying fortress. The silhouette is unmistakable.


24 posted on 08/02/2009 9:58:21 AM PDT by calex59 (I, me, myself, am actually Jim Thompson)
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To: beebuster2000
oops. radio was who knows what, finches were japanese. that makes more sense.

Well at least Japan made the tweeter.

25 posted on 08/02/2009 10:02:02 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (If I disagree with you, it is because you are wrong.)
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To: beebuster2000
The back story on this caper seems to be that there is trouble in the Knight paradise. Mrs. Knight gave the birds and the radio to Mrs. Whitehead during a visit to the Whitehead estate seven weeks ago. Attorney Knight reclaimed the items yesterday when he went to the estate "to call on his wife", who appears to have been staying with the Whiteheads all this time. Sounds sort of like the "Philadelphia Story" moved to Long Island.

How about that other short article - "Three British Fliers Killed."

Since Jan. 1, 175 men have died in 103 R. A. F. crashes.

Yikes! The air force is almost as dangerous as the submarine service.

26 posted on 08/02/2009 10:04:35 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: calex59

i am thinking that the article B-39 designation is wrong. i cant find any B-39 on the boeing website, other than more advanced aircraft that came out many years later. so maybe it really is a B-17 or some earllry variant of it.


27 posted on 08/02/2009 10:36:43 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: beebuster2000

It is a B17. There was no B39(at least not one that made it into production). The B29 Super fortress came out late in WWII and was used to bomb Japan from bases in the Pacific. The B29 dropped the A bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima. There was a B36 after the war, a huge 6 engined propeller driven giant that was the first bomber used by SAC. After that came the B47 and then the B52(which is still with us), the BUFF.


28 posted on 08/02/2009 11:20:45 AM PDT by calex59 (I, me, myself, am actually Jim Thompson)
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To: calex59

I was going to say that it was probably a 10 key error. (on a 10 key pad you would hit 1 and 7 with the index finger or if you followed the same pattern with the ring finger you would hit 3 and 9) I then realized that they were not typing on keyboards with ten key pads. The only place you saw a ten key layout was on an adding machine. The only B-39 I can find is a variant of the B-29 called the Spirit of Lincoln.


29 posted on 08/02/2009 11:33:05 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (If I disagree with you, it is because you are wrong.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

The Flying Fortress (B-17) was a Boeing 299. It was a good bit smaller than the XB-15 (which suffered from being grossly underpowered for its size). The wings on the XB15 are noticeably much larger in area when pictured from above, as well.

B-17 G

Span 103’9”
Length 74’4”

XB-15

Span 149’
Length 87’7”


30 posted on 08/02/2009 12:30:25 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: CougarGA7
Well at least Japan made the tweeter.

I'm just going to forget I read that.

31 posted on 08/02/2009 2:08:00 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Chode
it is definitely XB, simply look at how thin/narrow the tail end is compared to the production planes

Early model B-17C versions, which saw service early in the Pacific war and with the British in limited service, had the narrow tail end.

32 posted on 08/02/2009 6:34:10 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
i stand corrected... i know they redesigned it as a critical failure point, was it because of combat losses then?
33 posted on 08/02/2009 6:44:55 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; Loud Mime; BIGLOOK; EGPWS
Must have pics of early Flying Fortress for this thread.

YB-17 first of the service test models after the crash of the Model 299.

A couple of shots of tail #105, note the Wright Field insignia just behind the waist window.

A "C" Model B-17 not sure where pic was taken.

This is a B-17D and the picture was taken in the Philipines according to the caption I had.

Well gotta run, I iwll close out with this pic of a YB-17 at Langely Field

Thanks for the ping Loud Mime

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

34 posted on 08/02/2009 7:09:25 PM PDT by alfa6
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To: alfa6

Thanks much. That was worth waiting for.


35 posted on 08/02/2009 7:15:34 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Glad to be of service.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


36 posted on 08/02/2009 7:24:37 PM PDT by alfa6
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To: alfa6

Love these old aircraft...especially the sweet sound of their powerplants and the smell of the oil and avgas.


37 posted on 08/02/2009 7:33:53 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Thrasymachus: justice is whatever is in the interest of the stronger party in a given state)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I love these threads!


38 posted on 08/03/2009 8:23:51 AM PDT by GeronL (Guilty of the crime of deviationism.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Hard to believe that was a ‘huge’ plane in those days, doesn’t seem so big nowadays


39 posted on 08/03/2009 11:06:38 PM PDT by GeronL (Guilty of the crime of deviationism.)
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To: alfa6

have some great pic’s of Aluminum Overcast B-17 but can’t get them to post


40 posted on 08/05/2009 7:47:57 PM PDT by rb57
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