Posted on 07/29/2009 10:42:06 PM PDT by MissTickly
This is in follow-up to my post on Tuesday: "The Day I asked a question and got the MOTHER of all answers"
The implications of the following account is that the President's REAL NAME did not appear on any ballot, in any state.
That's just one of MANY implications. Let me preface by saying an AMENDED birth record could indicate that the President was adopted by either Lolo Soetoro and/or His grandparents, the Dunhams.
My story:
I have serious reasons to believe that Janice Okubo and/or Director Fukino, Department of Health in Hawaii are under duress. Something is preventing Director Fukino from making statements that she has the statutory authority to make.
And my story coincides with the recent revelation that the President is a Natural Born Citizen and born in Hawaii, all along.
On Monday, on a whim I decided to try my hand at a question for Ms. Okubo, Communications Director for the Department that holds the President’s vital records.
In a nutshell, this is what I asked her:
–Ms. Okubo–
If the Director made this statement:
““Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures… ”
…she has the statutory authority to answer this question:
“Is the Director of Health for the State of Hawai’i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, able to state they have verified that the Hawai’i State Department of Health has President Barack Obama’s AMENDED original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures?”
Please reply with her answer.
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You see, they have the same statutory authority over an Amended Original Birth Certificate that they have over an (unamended) Original Birth Certificate.
No one has to attest to an Amended Original Birth Certificate’s existence. By virtue of STATUTORY AUTHORITY she can make this statement, AND she clearly says so.
But, to my surprise, at 11:47 p.m. on Monday, July 27, 2009 I got the press release in answer to my question with the recent revelations and now the words ‘VITAL RECORDS’ are referenced.
Now, taken at face value, the press release seems to affirm the question I asked, but I wanted clarity. So I asked specifically if the Director could make a statement that she has the STATUTORY AUTHORITY TO MAKE:
“As Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, I have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has President Barack Obama’s AMENDED original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”
But I got this in return: “The director has nothing further to add to her statements.”
More than once. I even asked if she can make the statement if she was compelled to. Nothing.
I let Ms. Okubo know that I fear something is preventing them from making statements they have the authority to make. And told her I was compelled to tell someone.
Not that anyone will care, but I have alerted the media in detail.
I have the emails to corroborate.
I am VERY concerned.
That's backwards, if you are born a US Citizen, you need not reaffirm it. You cannot renounce it until you are 18. Your parents, adoptive or natural, cannot renounce it on your behalf.
It's much worse than that:
Transnational Implications of the Birth Certificate Controversy
Bad enough if it happens at some random time...
Yeah. The same team the went after Joe the Plumber is still in place.
0bama is not shy about having anyone who dares question The Onointed Won beaten to a pulp.
And then having the pulp beaten dry.
And could this have afforded him the same rights of a child that is biological to his/her parents?
Maybe.
I don't think so. If he wasn't a Natural Born Citizen at birth, nothing can change that.
Indeed, any attempt at a change merely acknowledges that there was no NBC status in the first place.
Somehow, I rather doubt the clintons are immune to blackmail. Suppose 0bama (or more likely one of his owners) has bullet proof evidence of one or more clinton felonies?...
The biggest problem that I see is that there are even Freepers that don’t understand what’s going on. There’s one on another thread telling me that dual citizenship isn’t a problem. I don’t even bother debating them anymore.
Getting a photo or two of one's children getting off the bus at school, with crosshairs drawn over their faces is pretty hard to ignore.
Getting a copy of your bank statements (from that little account off shore that the IRS doesn't know about) with a little love-note is pretty hard to ignore.
Finding pictures of you and your lover en flagrente delecto is pretty hard to ignore.
Do you have nothing in your life you love or fear so much that it couldn't be used as a lever to get you to at least parse a statement very carefully?
Do you? Hmmm?
I am not sure you are right. I think I’ve read that a foreign born child is afforded all the legal considerations that a biological child is afforded.
Until someone can explain differently, I still think it’s possible the last adoption made him Barry Dunham, born in Kenya, adopted IN America IN Hawaii by TWO american citizens (his grandparents) AND a he is Natural Born Citizen.
The Constitution doesn’t give her any authority over his vital record.
I bet your governor can’t just go look at your BC either.
“Ah, but the governor does not have statutory authority over Obama’s Vital Records. Fukino does.
The Constitutions of the US and of Hawaii require all state officials to take an oath to support the US Constitution (and that of Hawaii). That would include Dr. Fukino. (Art XVI Section 4 Hawaii Constitution, Art. VI US Constitution). the Oath for officials of Hawaii is specified in the state Constitution as follows:
“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the State of Hawaii, and that I will faithfully discharge my duties as ........................ to best of my ability.””
A half truth is a particularly vicious kind of lie.
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DJ MacWoW ~ My money's on Barry Dunham or Barry Soetoro.
I'm pretty sure his legal name is now Barack Hussein Obama II.
I think his birth name was Stanley Ann Dunham, Jr. (or maybe Mortimer Snerdly Toot)...
Gatún? David? Do either of you have the full answer handy? I simply don't have time to dig for it right now.
Could all you freepers be so kind as to click on this poll: Should CNN fire Lou Dobbs?
http://answers.polldaddy.com/poll/1809957/?msg=commentAdd#comment288123>
Aloysius Percival Snerd? It has a certain ring to it.
Or ask her, my what constitutional clause are you basing your assessment that a person is a Natural Born Citizen.
In the same vein - Under what USSC ruling are you basing your opinion that a person is a Natural Born Citizen.
Let’s see if the good Doctor can site legal precedence.
Ah given Barbara is in heaven I do not think I need to ping her on earthly internet equipment for her to be in the know.
I understand what you are saying BUT please cite for me the USSC ruling that proves this to be the case.
That is the problem, we have no definitive case to point to that says specifically a Natural Born Citizen is a person who is born on American Soil, from two parents who were also born on American soil.
It’s for this reason Obama and his defenders have been able to play this game with the NBC requirement.
Granted, we have the writings of our founders. We have opinions written by the courts and of others who’ve discussed, at length, what a NBC is. We also have changes in our laws that provide for NBC status for two members of the military who have a child overseas while serving their country.
We have to have a court ruling, a final opinion from the USSC that gives clear meaning to exactly what it takes for a person to claim NBC status. I fear if that ruling was asked of our USSC today, they will play with the precedence, writing of the founders and past court opinion to assure Obama qualifies.
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