"END OF LIFE COUNSELING"

The Edisto Joe Outlook ^ | 07/29/2009 | Edisto Joe

[Edisto Joe]

"END OF LIFE COUNSELING"

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Euthanasia.

[Ditter]

I am 69 years old, when/if someone shows up to discuss end of life issues with me I am going to tell them to “F” OFF. My great aunt lived to be 115 3/4 and I just might decide to do the same!

[Noumenon]

Soylent Green. Logan’s Run.

[marron]

The freedom to live ones life without government intrusion is sacred.

I agree. And even half the country believed that, we wouldn't be in the fix we're in.

[stuartcr]

I bet they have a hard time finding anyone to volunteer for the job of end-of-life counselor.

[Lazamataz]

I bet they have a hard time finding anyone to volunteer for the job of end-of-life counselor.

If an End-Of-Life Counselor shows up on my door, I will be glad to show him how important it would be for society, if only he WOULD end his life.

[Mr. Blonde]

All the same counseling or no, I imagine there will come a time when I have DNR tattooed on my chest by my own choice.

[Renegade]

Tell them to get off your property or YOU will END their life !

[Jmouse007]

Obama "CARE" for the aged, infirm and seriously ill:

"You are too old, too sick, too... (fill in the blank) so OBEY; shut up, lie down, take a pain pill and DIE!"

Isn't it wonderous to see how much Obama and the democratically controled congress that are trying to shove this abomination down our throats (while they maintain their own private "Lexus Healthcare" for themselves and their extended families) "love" us and how "concerned" they are about our physical welfare?

[tumblindice]

All over France bed-ridden old folks are being trundled
into stuffy attics so their children can go on vacation.

I’m sure 0’s people are looking into this practice.

[OB1kNOb]

EUTHANIZE OBAMACARE, STAT!

[The Great RJ]

The counseling is to prepare you for what is to come. Say you are 75 and survived a previous heart attack 10 years ago, but have had on and off angina. A cardiac cath and stent would give you years of quality life, but government bureaucrats looking at your health records will say no because of your age, history of obesity and that you were a smoker. You might receive generic medications for angina, but none of the more expensive drugs that would allow you some quality of life. You spend the rest of your remaining few years debilitated and hardly able to leave your home. If you have a heart attack there are government mandated no code, no treatment orders that will assure you die.

[stuartcr]

I agree. I don’t know anyone tht would be the least bit civil to one of these people. It’s probably going to be one of the worst civil service jobs available.

[badgerlandjim]

I’m a senior. Hell - the counseling’s gonna be FREE ain’t it? One session every five years? I DEMAND counseling twice a month!! I paid in all those years! I got my rights!! It’s FREE, dammit! I want all I can get!

[stuartcr]

It’ll probably result in a huge black-market medical industry.

[marron]

They will convince people that it is selfish for them to take up resources that are precious and scarce.

Of course, with the Obamists in charge, a lot of things are going to become scarce, so there is some logic to this.

And the kind of people who vote for Obamists don’t much believe in life, and weren’t going to do anything anyway.

Seriously, this is where we wind up when a preponderance of people think that life is a cost rather than an ultimate value, that government is a source rather than a means to an end. That the living represent a load on the system rather than the purpose of the system.

I’ve often said that the interesting arguments are all on the conservative side, and its true, we don’t all agree on exactly how to skin which cats. But we share a respect for certain eternal principles, which means that however crazy some of us may be we share at the heart some common truths.

But when you are arguing with the Obamists you are dealing with a soul-sickness that makes discussion all but impossible. The problem here can’t be solved with politics because it goes so much deeper than politics. We have to defeat them and we need to evangelize them. You can’t share power with someone who doesn’t believe in life and doesn’t believe in liberty in the first place.

[mom4melody]

In direct violation of the Constitution:

Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868. Note History

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of LIFE, liberty, or property....

[marron]

It’ll probably result in a huge black-market medical industry.

Bingo. Exactly.

Restricted to the people who can pay for it.

In other words, in the interest of trying to make medical care more widely accessible, we are going to make it less available, and we are going to shift the advantage even more toward the moneyed class. Money and connections always gets you better treatment, and under Obamacare this will be even more true than it is now. This is something people don't get; central control always begets oligarchy. More central control begets more oligarchy.

[stuartcr]

Like now, only worse.