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Excerpt- The Kindergarten twins (Nordyke) conspiracy spun off from the “lost” kindergarten records. The question is why the Nordyke twin’s, who were born a few hours after Obama, announcement was missing from the newspaper. The theory is that they were removed so Obama’s could be inserted.

Excerpt- Under Indonesian law, Obama could not hold dual citizenship. But U.S. law would still recognize Obama as an American citizen. This led to theory that Obama traveled to Pakistan in college under an Indonesia passport. In the early 1980’s, it was very difficult to enter Pakistan under a U.S. passport.

1 posted on 07/26/2009 5:07:16 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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E-Mail CNN and ask them to cover the Barack Obama “must release his records” issue which will inform us if he is a natural born citizen or not. Please thank Lou Dobbs for covering the story:

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html


2 posted on 07/26/2009 5:13:14 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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Too many unanswered questions...


3 posted on 07/26/2009 5:14:14 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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Just a humble opinion....but when Stanley ended up marrying the Indonesian dude...it’s very likely that she ended up terminating his citizenship (in effect, giving it up)...to make this Indonesian citizenship episode work. If you can imagine the workings of a 3rd world country and their bureaucratic nature...I can easily see some naive American girl easily agreeing and doing legal paperwork to trigger such a stupid decision.

All this chatter over being born in a foreign country is bogus...and people are wasting their time.

The minute you get to his legendary story over traveling to Pakistan...at that point in time...the visa and passport business should have clicked in your mind. He had no issue...he had the Indonesian passport. At that point, you should ask more questions....but instead, we end up wasting time talking over Hawaii and how he got born in Kenya.

The last remaining topic of interest here...is that you can’t find a single friend or associate from this college period who talks over the guy and his travels, etc. He is a virtual unknown. When you look at Stanley and her period in Hawaii...at the university, and then this period in Indonesia....she is a virtual unknown. They both blend in and quietly just sit there.

There is a story here....but it’s barely noticed for a reason.


6 posted on 07/26/2009 5:17:53 AM PDT by pepsionice
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If Obama indeed possessed Indonesian citizenship as a child, it is unlikely he retains such citizenship.

I've not followed the details of this issue closely; I'm one of the "he's clearly hiding something, so what is it" crowd. So here's my naive question:

I had the notion that children with dual nationalities needed to make an election when they reached maturity. Assuming he was born in Hawaii, BO would have been U.S.-Kenyan. If he later became an Indonesian national, he would have been U.S.-Indonesian. Did he need to make a citizenship election at age 18 or 21? Did he?

7 posted on 07/26/2009 5:18:44 AM PDT by sphinx
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Although I am interested in the Birth certificate thing, I wish it would go away until someone found the smoking gun. Who knows, this whole thing might just be a ploy to make conservatives look bad.


8 posted on 07/26/2009 5:20:46 AM PDT by Paradox (Obama - Harvard = Sharpton {thanks to sfvgto})
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Laws do not apply to Democrats, and they are 'erased' nunc pro tunc.


9 posted on 07/26/2009 5:21:39 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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“Most of the conspiracies may seem petty and insignificant, but it does indicate that Obama has not been transparent or honest with the American people”

When someone is running for the presidency of the US, full disclosure should be mandatory. There is, in my view, no such thing as ‘petty and insignificant’. The press knew Bush's academic record, his DUI arrest, his alcoholism history, his service record, etc. etc. We know almost nothing about Obama except that he has a troubling history of hanging around people with anti-American views. If he were a Republican these would not be ‘conspiracy theories’. They would be big news stories reported on and investigated by the MSM.

15 posted on 07/26/2009 5:28:48 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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Despite being called a nut, crazy or a tin foil hat wearer, I have been a birther from the beginning. I was told to move on and attack him on the issues. Obviously that didnt get us very far. It’s not only the fact that we have not seen the records, but the effort that has been taken to prevent them from becoming public. IMHO, there is a smoking gun, or should I say smoking cannon hiden somewhere in these missing records.


20 posted on 07/26/2009 5:32:17 AM PDT by mouse1
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PING!

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“The question is why the Nordyke twin’s, who were born a few hours after Obama, announcement was missing from the newspaper. The theory is that they were removed so Obama’s could be inserted.”


26 posted on 07/26/2009 5:36:21 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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This is the best article that I’ve read on this whole thing. It puts everything in perpective and includes things I’ve never heard before, like Obama’s Kindergarden records are conspicuously absent, as are his academic records in his private schools...which are sealed...

He is not very transparent on this....


48 posted on 07/26/2009 5:59:10 AM PDT by nikos1121
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As a freshman, he quickly became friends with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, two wealthy Pakistanis. -

In 1981, Obama transferred from Occidental to Columbia. In between, he traveled to Pakistan — a trip that enhanced his foreign policy qualifications, he maintained in a private speech at a San Francisco fundraiser last month. Obama spent "about three weeks" in Pakistan, traveling with Hamid and staying in Karachi with Chandoo's family, said Bill Burton, Obama's press secretary.

Connection

49 posted on 07/26/2009 6:01:04 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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SPECIAL HUMBLE REQUEST TO AND MSM OR COLLEGE JOURNALIST WHO GETS THE CHANCE:

Please simply ask our president “Why, Sir, do you believe there is such controversy about your citizenship and public education records?”


50 posted on 07/26/2009 6:01:18 AM PDT by nikos1121
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TOO LATE NOW! There are now some constitutional/legislative “theologians” who say that even IF the DemocRAT votes COULD be found to impeach him, that Obama is legally UNIMPEACHABLE, if in fact he is not a natural-born American. They say that, because then he would never have been eligible to hold the office in the first place, and so is NOT the President, and thus CANNOT be impeached! The articles simply would NOT APPLY to him, any more than they would to you or me. Meanwhile, he occupies the White House, sitting around smoking cigars, drinking Crown Royal, and flitting about on Air Force One. If true, HOW would he be removed from the White House? Perhaps via an ordinary EVICTION process? Don’t let the media bury this story!


57 posted on 07/26/2009 6:16:23 AM PDT by 2harddrive (S)
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>"Most of the conspiracies may seem petty and insignificant,"

Yeah, the Nonstitution is a flawed and insignificant conspiracy document!

59 posted on 07/26/2009 6:20:49 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Ifanationexpects tobe ignorantandfree,inastateofcivilization,itexpects whatneverwas andnever will be)
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60 posted on 07/26/2009 6:27:53 AM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (o)...Ayatollah of GlennBeckistan... keep it going brother...(o)
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62 posted on 07/26/2009 6:51:00 AM PDT by OBXWanderer ( Vote, and vote often, just don't vote incumbent.)
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HUGE Difference between..."CERTIFICAION of LIVE BIRTH" and "CERTIFICATE of LIVE BIRTH" which has the Hospiutal name, the doctor's name, and other pertinent info!

The "CertifiCATION of LIVE BIRTH" is just a paper that says that Obama is ALIVE and was BORN.

63 posted on 07/26/2009 6:53:38 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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Good article, but why the last statement “Most of the conspiracies may seem petty and insignificant”?

Which of the theories seem petty and insignificant and why?


74 posted on 07/26/2009 7:38:31 AM PDT by bvw
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The Kindergarten Conspiracy is simply that Obama's Noelani Elementary School Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the State of Hawaii Department of Education. See the above link to where local paper reports the lost records. The important feature of this conspiracy is that Kindergarten records would have contained the following: 1. Obama's REAL Birth Certificate. 2. An application with the following: • His Legal name. • Parents or Legal Guardians’ names. • Date of Birth • Place of Birth • Vaccination Records

How convenient -- no other student's records are missing -- only Obama's.

76 posted on 07/26/2009 7:46:29 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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“The question is why the Nordyke twin’s, who were born a few hours after Obama, announcement was missing from the newspaper. The theory is that they were removed so Obama’s could be inserted.”

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(Thanks, rpa.)

80 posted on 07/26/2009 8:04:21 AM PDT by LucyT
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