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To: real_patriotic_american

Just a humble opinion....but when Stanley ended up marrying the Indonesian dude...it’s very likely that she ended up terminating his citizenship (in effect, giving it up)...to make this Indonesian citizenship episode work. If you can imagine the workings of a 3rd world country and their bureaucratic nature...I can easily see some naive American girl easily agreeing and doing legal paperwork to trigger such a stupid decision.

All this chatter over being born in a foreign country is bogus...and people are wasting their time.

The minute you get to his legendary story over traveling to Pakistan...at that point in time...the visa and passport business should have clicked in your mind. He had no issue...he had the Indonesian passport. At that point, you should ask more questions....but instead, we end up wasting time talking over Hawaii and how he got born in Kenya.

The last remaining topic of interest here...is that you can’t find a single friend or associate from this college period who talks over the guy and his travels, etc. He is a virtual unknown. When you look at Stanley and her period in Hawaii...at the university, and then this period in Indonesia....she is a virtual unknown. They both blend in and quietly just sit there.

There is a story here....but it’s barely noticed for a reason.


6 posted on 07/26/2009 5:17:53 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

Correct! To school in Indonesia, a student must be an Indonesian citizen. Indonesia does not permit dual citizenship.

You wrote-
“Just a humble opinion....but when Stanley ended up marrying the Indonesian dude...it’s very likely that she ended up terminating his citizenship (in effect, giving it up)...to make this Indonesian citizenship episode work. If you can imagine the workings of a 3rd world country and their bureaucratic nature...I can easily see some naive American girl easily agreeing and doing legal paperwork to trigger such a stupid decision.

All this chatter over being born in a foreign country is bogus...and people are wasting their time.

The minute you get to his legendary story over traveling to Pakistan...at that point in time...the visa and passport business should have clicked in your mind. He had no issue...he had the Indonesian passport. At that point, you should ask more questions....but instead, we end up wasting time talking over Hawaii and how he got born in Kenya.

The last remaining topic of interest here...is that you can’t find a single friend or associate from this college period who talks over the guy and his travels, etc. He is a virtual unknown. When you look at Stanley and her period in Hawaii...at the university, and then this period in Indonesia....she is a virtual unknown. They both blend in and quietly just sit there.

There is a story here....but it’s barely noticed for a reason.”


10 posted on 07/26/2009 5:22:04 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: pepsionice
All this chatter over being born in a foreign country is bogus...and people are wasting their time.

I am also not sure that a Kenyan birth is credible, however there is some reason why the address presented on the birth announcement was never inhabited by the Obamas. (Barrack Sr., Stanley, Barrack Jr.) There is also no evidence that they ever lived together as family. There is some reason that there is no record of his birth at either of the Honolulu. There is some reason that he has no visible history. NONE.

16 posted on 07/26/2009 5:29:50 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: pepsionice

Exactly. When was his US passport issued? If after his trip..Case closed. Why do you think there was such a row over an agent in the passport office looking up his file??? Would it be too much to ask the date of his US passport?


23 posted on 07/26/2009 5:34:37 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: pepsionice
Just a humble opinion....but when Stanley ended up marrying the Indonesian dude...it’s very likely that she ended up terminating his citizenship (in effect, giving it up)...to make this Indonesian citizenship episode work.

Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship.

The minute you get to his legendary story over traveling to Pakistan...at that point in time...the visa and passport business should have clicked in your mind.

There was no ban on Americans travelling to Pakistan at that time. I know that for a fact having personally travelled there a number of times during that period. There were travel advisories, primarily because our Embassy had been burned down by a Pakistani mob.

The last remaining topic of interest here...is that you can’t find a single friend or associate from this college period who talks over the guy and his travels, etc.

Old friends recall Obama's college years

31 posted on 07/26/2009 5:39:27 AM PDT by kabar
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To: pepsionice
"...All this chatter over being born in a foreign country is bogus...and people are wasting their time..."

And you know this how? Just a "gut feeling?"
Not nearly good enough.
His paternal grandmother insists having attended his birth at a hospital in Kenya, which U.S. Immigration/Passport records indicate his mother visited right around the time of his birth.

It is further alleged that she was too close to delivering lilla Barrakkki-poo to be allowed on the airplane, and was instead taken to the hospital to deliver the nasty looking flap-eared goon. He now holds the unlikely dual distinction of being both the world's Biggest Liar and the Worst President In American History.

I'm convinced he's also an illegal alien, and I wonder why you feel the need to cover up for him... you couldn't possibly have proof of your highly improbable suggestion, do you? If you do have such proof, I in all candor and dire sincerity suggest that you sleep lightly... you're potentially very inconvenient to the most powerful BO on the planet.

Others who have proven inconvenient to him aren't doing so well right now...

;-/

32 posted on 07/26/2009 5:39:42 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people..." John Adams)
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To: pepsionice

I agree, I’ve long thought there was a coverup regarding his original long form birth certificate, but I don’t claim to know the real reason behind it. The whole Kenyan birth scenario looks like a long shot and smells too “kooky conspiracy theory” to me. This idea that he was an indonesian citizen and covered it up actually makes a lot of sense. If indeed that was the case, wouldn’t it mean he holds dual allegiances and be ineligible for the presidency?


35 posted on 07/26/2009 5:42:42 AM PDT by messierhunter
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