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Little gems from the Health Care Bill
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=903496 ^

Posted on 07/24/2009 3:12:23 PM PDT by CMS

• Page 16: States that if you have insurance at the time of the bill becoming law and change, you will be required to take a similar plan. If that is not available, you will be required to take the gov option!
• Page 22: Mandates audits of all employers that self-insure!
• Page 29: Admission: your health care will be rationed!
• Page 30: A government committee will decide what treatments and benefits you get (and, unlike an insurer, there will be no appeals process)
• Page 42: The "Health Choices Commissioner" will decide health benefits for you. You will have no choice. None.
• Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free healthcare services.
• Page 58: Every person will be issued a National ID Healthcard.
• Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.
• Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize all union retiree and community organizer health plans (example: SEIU, UAW and ACORN)
• Page 72: All private healthcare plans must conform to government rules to participate in a Healthcare Exchange.
• Page 84: All private healthcare plans must participate in the Healthcare Exchange (i.e., total government control of private plans)
• Page 91: Government mandates linguistic infrastructure for services; translation: illegal aliens
• Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan.
• Page 102: Those eligible for Medicaid will be automatically enrolled: you have no choice in the matter.
• Page 124: No company can sue the government for price-fixing. No "judicial review" is permitted against the government monopoly. Put simply, private insurers will be crushed.
• Page 127: The AMA sold doctors out: the government will set wages.
• Page 145: An employer MUST auto-enroll employees into the government-run public plan. No alternatives.
• Page 126: Employers MUST pay healthcare bills for part-time employees AND their families.
• Page 149: Any employer with a payroll of $400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll <>BR • Page 150: Any employer with a payroll of $250K-400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays a 2 to 6% tax on payroll
• Page 167: Any individual who doesnt' have acceptable healthcare (according to the government) will be taxed 2.5% of income.
• Page 170: Any NON-RESIDENT alien is exempt from individual taxes (Americans will pay for them).
• Page 195: Officers and employees of Government Healthcare Bureaucracy will have access to ALL American financial and personal records.
• Page 203: "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax." Yes, it really says that.
• Page 239: Bill will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors and the poor most affected."
• Page 241: Doctors: no matter what speciality you have, you'll all be paid the same (thanks, AMA!)
• Page 253: Government sets value of doctors' time, their professional judgment, etc.
• Page 265: Government mandates and controls productivity for private healthcare industries.
• Page 268: Government regulates rental and purchase of power-driven wheelchairs.
• Page 272: Cancer patients: welcome to the wonderful world of rationing!
• Page 280: Hospitals will be penalized for what the government deems preventable re-admissions.
• Page 298: Doctors: if you treat a patient during an initial admission that results in a readmission, you will be penalized by the government.
• Page 317: Doctors: you are now prohibited for owning and investing in healthcare companies!
• Page 318: Prohibition on hospital expansion. Hospitals cannot expand without government approval.
• Page 321: Hospital expansion hinges on "community" input: in other words, yet another payoff for ACORN.
• Page 335: Government mandates establishment of outcome-based measures: i.e., rationing.
• Page 341: Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans, HMOs, etc.
• Page 354: Government will restrict enrollment of SPECIAL NEEDS individuals.
• Page 379: More bureaucracy: Telehealth Advisory Committee (healthcare by phone).
• Page 425: More bureaucracy: Advance Care Planning Consult: Senior Citizens, assisted suicide, euthanasia?
• Page 425: Government will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. Mandatory. Appears to lock in estate taxes ahead of time.
• Page 425: Goverment provides approved list of end-of-life resources, guiding you in death.
• Page 427: Government mandates program that orders end-of-life treatment; government dictates how your life ends.
• Page 429: Advance Care Planning Consult will be used to dictate treatment as patient's health deteriorates. This can include an ORDER for end-of-life plans. An ORDER from the GOVERNMENT.
• Page 430: Government will decide what level of treatments you may have at end-of-life.
• Page 469: Community-based Home Medical Services: more payoffs for ACORN.
• Page 472: Payments to Community-based organizations: more payoffs for ACORN.
• Page 489: Government will cover marriage and family therapy. Government intervenes in your marriage.
• Page 494: Government will cover mental health services: defining, creating and rationing those services.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; bhohealthcare; biggovernment; deathcare; healthcare; nothealthcare; obama; obamacare; socializedmedicine; unconstitutional
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This is a frightening piece of legislation. If this passes the U.S. officially enters into an "Orwellian" state.

If I voiced my feelings on this, I'd get banned from this site. So I'll just say continue to call, e-mail, contact your Reps, and Senators constantly and tell them to vote against this bill.

1 posted on 07/24/2009 3:12:24 PM PDT by CMS
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To: CMS

Thank you for assembling this.

What if I don’t want a National Health ID card?


2 posted on 07/24/2009 3:16:52 PM PDT by oblomov (Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods. - Mencken)
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To: CMS

Good Lord. This is unbelievable.


4 posted on 07/24/2009 3:18:34 PM PDT by squarebarb
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To: CMS

Do you have a source and link for this?


5 posted on 07/24/2009 3:18:54 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: CMS

And this is why Obama, Pelosi, Waxman, et al wanted to rush Obamacare through congress before anybody had a chance to read it.

Contact your congressman and your two senators today!


6 posted on 07/24/2009 3:19:12 PM PDT by Walrus (My congressman is toast in 2010 --- how about yours?)
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To: oblomov

1) leave the US
2) run for your life
3) lie
4) expect a chip
5) live like there’s no tomorrow. It will be.


7 posted on 07/24/2009 3:19:35 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Fili et Spiritus Sancti.)
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To: Admin Moderator
I don't know how to hot link.

1017 pages of HR3200
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.pdf

But I got it off of another forum http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=903496

and they got it from, and just cleaned it up a bit.
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2009/07/whats-in-healthacre-bill.html
8 posted on 07/24/2009 3:24:18 PM PDT by CMS ( obama pres & dem majority----RIP United States of America 1776-2008 It was great while it lasted.)
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To: Admin Moderator
in fact at this site, which has the text of the bill. type in the page number i said, and you can see it CLEARLY in print

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.txt.pdf
9 posted on 07/24/2009 3:31:13 PM PDT by CMS ( obama pres & dem majority----RIP United States of America 1776-2008 It was great while it lasted.)
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To: CMS
F U B O

10 posted on 07/24/2009 3:38:38 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: CMS

Looks like I’ll be paying for healthcare twice, like I paid for education twice.

Once for the government mandated and useless version (Public Schools, Obama DeathCare(TM)) and once in the Free Market for what works.

They can demand that I pay for their care. It’s a tax. They can’t stop me from spending my own money after that in a private transaction with an individual doctor.


11 posted on 07/24/2009 3:48:37 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (It's the spending, stupid!)
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To: CMS

Yet they refuse to let the GOP call it Government Healthcare?


12 posted on 07/24/2009 4:03:50 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (-0 retreats, Iraq explodes! NK fires missiles! Iran erupts! China erupts!)
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To: CMS

BM


13 posted on 07/24/2009 4:05:47 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: CMS

bfl


14 posted on 07/24/2009 4:07:59 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Admin Moderator

Straight out of the 1000 plus page House Health Care plan. I read the entire thing and this is a very good synopsis. However, there will be ove 500 NEW bureaucracies created to implement this plan. Now, will all those new government employees be exempt from the plan they are to foist on the rest of us??? You betcha!!


15 posted on 07/24/2009 4:40:00 PM PDT by Semperfiwife (Health "care" - by the same folks who run Amtrak and the post office)
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To: Walrus
Wasn't there also a section that this bill is exempt from judicial review, so that the courts theoretically CANNOT challenge unconstitutional law? ObamaCare Jokes Obama Jokes
16 posted on 07/24/2009 5:02:15 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: tbw2

Isn’t there a provision restricting going out of state for seeing a primary care or specialist physician or hospital?


17 posted on 07/24/2009 5:12:43 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The boy's war iin Dor tetriot has already cost more then the war in Iraq.)
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To: CMS

It seems to me that a little death might be beneficial to the country. The start sould begin in Washington


18 posted on 07/24/2009 5:19:07 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The boy's war iin Dor tetriot has already cost more then the war in Iraq.)
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To: bert
I had not heard of that one, but it would not surprise me. ObamaCare Jokes Obama Jokes
19 posted on 07/24/2009 5:47:04 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: combat_boots

Good summary. Should this pass we have about 3 years to find a new home. Someone posted about the Phillipines recently.


20 posted on 07/24/2009 6:25:21 PM PDT by MarMema
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