Excerpt- As you can see from the intent of the Founding Fathers to the Supreme Court decision that “a natural born” is the child of citizens. A natural born citizen is not the child of an alien. In this there is no doubt. The question now that we seek answered is that Barack Hussein Obama, II is both the child of an alien who never had any intention on becoming a naturalized citizen and the child of a citizen minor. If Barack Hussein Obama, II was in fact born in Hawaii, he is a citizen under Jus soli and afforded all rights any citizen has. But he is not a citizen under Jus sanguinis, because we have laws that dictate how Jus sanguinis citizenship can be transferred. If Barack Hussein Obama, II cannot claim citizenship under Jus sanguinis then he is not a natural born citizen.
Obama is not a natural born citizen which is defined in the 14th Amendment.
PING!
Obama not natural born citizen even if born in Hawaii (natural born citizen described in the 14th Ammendment).
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“As you can see from the intent of the Founding Fathers to the Supreme Court decision that “a natural born” is the child of citizens. A natural born citizen is not the child of an alien. In this there is no doubt. The question now that we seek answered is that Barack Hussein Obama, II is both the child of an alien who never had any intention on becoming a naturalized citizen and the child of a citizen minor. If Barack Hussein Obama, II was in fact born in Hawaii, he is a citizen under Jus soli and afforded all rights any citizen has. But he is not a citizen under Jus sanguinis, because we have laws that dictate how Jus sanguinis citizenship can be transferred. If Barack Hussein Obama, II cannot claim citizenship under Jus sanguinis then he is not a natural born citizen.”
I don’t buy this argument. He is his mother’s son. She is a US citizen.
I am taking a different stand on this. Everything Obama is doing is anti American and unConstitutional.
Maybe we need to look at it as this. What Obama is doing is actually treason if he were a natural born citizen, if he is not... well.
Maybe that is what we are missing. Obama is willing to do what he is doing, but he does not want to ever say he was committing treason or be held accountable for it.
If he was never a citizen, is what he is doing treason?
This is the kind of crap that gives conservatives a bad name. The term “natural born citizen” is a legal definition. Until the late 19th century, a person was a natural born citizen if born in the U.S., in a U.S. territory to a citizen father, to a citizen father who was not a permanent resident of another country, or to a citizen father who was under the authority of the U.S. (i.e. a diplomat).
In the late 19th century it was changed to a citizen parent.
If Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a natural born citizen. If he was born in Kenya, he is a natural born citizen (his mother was not a permanent resident of Kenya and a citizen).
At this point, I am very curious to see his birth certificate, but there has been no plausible scenario put forward to make me doubt he is a natural born citizen.
EXCELLENT wrap up. How do we get this to everyone? I’m going to write Hannity to convene a 1 hour panel discussion of this with both sides represented. Don’t hold breath, but maybe with enough effort, this might breakthrough: even the left has some with brains.
The 14th Amendment says "born or naturalized." The two are mutually exclusive. If you're born an citizen, you don't need to be naturalized.
Hence the absurdity of the very idea that someone born in the US is a naturalized citizen.
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.
Does "at the time of the adoption of this Constitution' go right along with 'or a citizen of the United States' and only applied 200+ years ago? That bolded part might be why he mentioned that he was a citizen of the United States last night in his speech....
This is the real question: shall we be ruled by a man whose loyalty is divided?
The Framers intended the answer to be "no". Monarchial Europe was full of "Royalty" who were foreigners, put on the thrones of different countries in a bid to subjugate them or to bind them. Men like Madison and Jefferson intended to stop that from ever happening, and the Natural Born Citizen restriction was their method.
Now we have just such a case as they intended to prevent. The issue should be brought up and the Usurper removed.
Didn't the O at some point in his youth "declare" his U.S. citizenship? If he were a "natural born citizen" this would not have been necessary. When you are a "natural born citizen" your U.S. citizenship comes as easy as falling out of bed in the morning.
Sorry I’m not that ODS.
IF he was actually born in Hawaii and proven via vault copy then yes he’s a Natural Born Citizen as his mother was a US Citizen. His father wasn’t but his mother was, that’s good enough for me.
Of course that still hangs on a vault BC showing he was in fact born in Hawaii.
You just crossed into "emanations of penumbras" territory wih that statement. You are trying to get the Constitution to say what you want it to say, instead of what the plain language means. That kind of thinking is what gave us In re Dred Scott, Plessy vs. Ferguson, and Roe vs. Wade and all the attendant nightmares those three cases caused.
No thanks, I'll take my Constitution straight up, not bent and twisted because people don't like a particular President.
My husband and I were both in the Army and stationed in Germany when it came time for my son to be born. I was told numerous times that, as a naturalized citizen, he would not be able to run for president. As silly as it seems, this caused my to come home to have my son in the States.
All of that to say that the common information I received as a soldier, in 1977, was that a naturalized citizen could not be president.
All persons born...in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States
Period.
” As you can see from the intent of the Founding Fathers to the Supreme Court decision that “a natural born” is the child of citizens”
How would you account for the status of the Founding Fathers then? They were all born as children of foreign citizens.
Here’s something else to chew on;
Proclamation 3525 - Declaring Sir Winston Churchill an Honorary Citizen of the United States of America
April 9, 1963
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=24064
His mother was also an American.