Between these start dates, Miss Duham became pregnant with Obama on Nov. 1, 1960 while she was 17 years of age. Claims are that she married Obama Sr. on February 2, 1961. If this is correct and Obama Sr. was already married, it would constitute bigamy. Bigamy is outlawed in Hawaii, but legal in Kenya. Thus, chances are that Obama's mother had moved to Kenya residing there the months preceding Obama's 1961 birth.
Obama's own grandmother states that she was present when Obama was born in Kenya. Thus, he would not be a natural born citizen. Obama is reported to have been born August 4, 1961.
Now, how could Obama be born in Kenya or Hawaii and then have his mother enrolled at the University of Washington later that same month? Unlikely movement!
Is there any witnesses to Stanley Ann Dunham's location and movement in 1961 up through Obama's birth. Any medical clinic visits in the U.S. during her pregnancy? I have not heard of any which is a good indication that she was in Kenya.
Claims indicate that Obama was adopted and became Barry Soetoro in Indonesia. He would then have lost natural born citizenship if he even ever had it. He attended Occidental College as Barry Soetoro. Occidental College informed Newsweek that Obama enrolled as a foreign student (info at FreeRepublic).
By simply releasing his original long form birth certificate, Obama could prove whether he is a natural born citizen or not. By spending an enormous amount in legal fees to keep his birth certificate hidden, it leads one to think that he is NOT a natural born citizen.
So is this a recommendation that our nation's leadership is accepted when it is possibly and probably fraudulent? Building truth upon a bed of lies is ignorant and dangerous, no matter what the consequences, the truth and law should and must abide. To do otherwise is a mockery of The Constitution, American law and every* voter who cast a ballot for this man. Because there is a racial angle to this controversy is no excuse to cover it up. Our laws are meant for all Americans.
*Even ACORN members and far left liberals.
Obama birth certificate issue not going away
Yes, but the state of Hawaii would have no way of knowing he was already married. He likely lied both to Bambi's mom as well as on his marriage license application.
Thus, chances are that Obama's mother had moved to Kenya residing there the months preceding Obama's 1961 birth.
There's absolutely no evidence to back it up.
Furthermore, the idea that a pregnant woman, with virtually no financial resources, would travel half way around the world to give birth in a third world country in 1961 is pattently absurd. Do you have any idea how difficult and expensive it would have been to get from Hawaii to Kenya in 1961? It's laughable that anyone would even considered it as a serious possibility.
Obama's own grandmother states that she was present when Obama was born in Kenya.
If you listen to the whole tape, she clearly states Obama was born in Hawaii while she was in Kenya.
Now, how could Obama be born in Kenya or Hawaii and then have his mother enrolled at the University of Washington later that same month? Unlikely movement!
It's not hard to reconstruct what happened. Bambi's mom meets dashing young African with an exotic charm for whom she falls in love. She gets pregnant some time in Nov. 1960 while a student at U of H. Marries the dude in Feb. of 1961 without doing any background research. He fails to tell her he was already married to another woman back in Kenya. Some time later she finds out he's a bigamist, or at least not the prince charming she thought he was. After Junior is born, she wants to get away from the scoundrel, so she runs away with her baby to some family friends in Mercer Island, WA, enrolling in classes at the UW in the Fall of '61.
Or you can believe a pregnant American college girl, with radical feminist views and few financial resources, flies halfway around the world, on a greuling 2-3 day journey that she can't pay for, just so she can legally marry a polygamist and join his harem, and give birth in thrid world conditions to boot.
No sane person should have much trouble deciding which is more plausible.
Is there any witnesses to Stanley Ann Dunham's location and movement in 1961 up through Obama's birth.
Probably.
Any medical clinic visits in the U.S. during her pregnancy?
Medical clinics don't typically keep records for 40 years. Furthermore, clinics in big cities like Honolulu tend to be pretty impersonal, so it's very unlikely the staff there would remember someone after 40 years. I have no idea who the doctor who delivered me was, and I seriously doubt any doctors who saw my mother while she was pregnant would remember her or me after all these years.
I have not heard of any which is a good indication that she was in Kenya.
Because she wasn't there.
Claims indicate that Obama was adopted and became Barry Soetoro in Indonesia.
There is no evidence he was adopted, nor is there evidence he ever officially changed his name in the US. And no, the Indonesian private school registration form is not evidence of either.
He would then have lost natural born citizenship if he even ever had it.
No he would not have, even if he were adopted by an Indonesian.
He attended Occidental College as Barry Soetoro. Occidental College informed Newsweek that Obama enrolled as a foreign student (info at FreeRepublic).
There is no evidence of either claim.
By simply releasing his original long form birth certificate, Obama could prove whether he is a natural born citizen or not.
A short-form COLB is sufficient to prove his natural born status, and is accepted by the US state department as such.
By spending an enormous amount in legal fees to keep his birth certificate hidden,
I have yet to see a single piece of evidence that he's spent a dime. And no, the fact that some high-power attorneies filed briefs on his behalf does not constitute such evidence. Those who assert it is don't seem to understand the concepts of "retainer" and "pro-bono."
I don’t know if the American people would be able to handle this kind of event and the ramifications of the loss in trust of the government
We can and will handle the truth. We are begging God for it every day. Loss of trust in government...if you have a grain of sense, you never trust the government.
“In a quest that is seen as wacky, way out there and as bitter partisan politics by some...”
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Another aspect of the left’s DISINGENUOUS narrative of current events.
This is a THRESHOLD issue should have been addressed last year. If we were truly a nation of laws and educated citizens, resolving this issue would be a no-brainer.
It’s no coincidence that Crazy Howard resigned as DNC chair. Eventually, when things go south for Odumbo, Howie will be the fall guy.
Here’s an idea: let’s demand of everyone BUT Obama that he or she provides a legitimate birth certificate, a longform birth certificate, and then take it from there. My guess is virtually ALL of them could. Let’s then request that Obama simply follow suit , and produce his , like all 535 members of Congress, and all the Secretaries and Commissioners and Czars he’s appointed.
BUT CONSIDER THIS: The Birther issue is NOT going to be exposed, and disseminated widely to those parts of the public who still don’t know about it, unless a dozen other issues, more typically “political” reach critical mass, and protests center around THEM. God knows, there are dozens of them. An Administration that tries to do so much, so quickly, before anyone knows what hit ‘em, is going to provide endless, round-the-clock opportunities for protest and civil unrest. Obama’s Presidency and his policies are NOT going to be undone be exposing the stand-alone issue of his constitutional illegitimacy to be President, but ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE, it could provide the tipping point that would make his whole house of cards come tumbling down.
BUT -—the thought has occurred to me more than once, that
this could be their ace in the hole: if there IS proof , acceptable to everyone, that Obama was born in Hawaii, or wherever he claims to be born, and it’s finally revealed, it might be enough to take a considerable amount of steam out of all the ideological/policy/program reasons to oppose him. One question that must be asked, and asked again, is WHY HAVE THEY SPENT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO FIGHT ALL LEGITIMATE CHALLENGES BY LEGITIMATE ATTORNEYS AS TO OBAMA’S ACTUAL BIRTHPLACE?????
This is a question that never seems to be brought up in
the ‘polite society’ of the MSM, on those rare occasions when the whole issue is invoked.
Dear Mr 0bama. Show the COLB to twenty democRATs and five republicans (lower case on purpose), in private. Those twenty democRATs and five republicans will appear together for a press (lower case on purpose) conference.
This issue goes away, makes your enemies seem crazy, and saves you another million dollars.
Please Mr President, make all of these "birthers," seem foolish.
Signed,
Lord Occam.
5.56mm
"Silence can only be equated with fraud where there is a legal or moral duty to speak or where an inquiry left unanswered would be intentionally misleading." United States v Prudder, 424 F. 2d 1021(5thCir. 1970),cert. denied, 400 U.S. 831 (1970)
So when is Eric Holder going to tell Obama he has to show us his Long Form Birth Certificate?
I have always wondered, just where does the name “Soetoro” come from? THere’s got to be some logic to it,but I must have missed the explanation somewhere.