[real_patriotic_american]

Stanley Ann Dunham, Barack Obama's mother, attended the University of Hawaii during the fall of 1960. She was enrolled at the University of Washington in autumn of 1961.

Between these start dates, Miss Duham became pregnant with Obama on Nov. 1, 1960 while she was 17 years of age. Claims are that she married Obama Sr. on February 2, 1961. If this is correct and Obama Sr. was already married, it would constitute bigamy. Bigamy is outlawed in Hawaii, but legal in Kenya. Thus, chances are that Obama's mother had moved to Kenya residing there the months preceding Obama's 1961 birth.

Obama's own grandmother states that she was present when Obama was born in Kenya. Thus, he would not be a natural born citizen. Obama is reported to have been born August 4, 1961.

Now, how could Obama be born in Kenya or Hawaii and then have his mother enrolled at the University of Washington later that same month? Unlikely movement!

Is there any witnesses to Stanley Ann Dunham's location and movement in 1961 up through Obama's birth. Any medical clinic visits in the U.S. during her pregnancy? I have not heard of any which is a good indication that she was in Kenya.

Claims indicate that Obama was adopted and became Barry Soetoro in Indonesia. He would then have lost natural born citizenship if he even ever had it. He attended Occidental College as Barry Soetoro. Occidental College informed Newsweek that Obama enrolled as a foreign student (info at FreeRepublic).

By simply releasing his original long form birth certificate, Obama could prove whether he is a natural born citizen or not. By spending an enormous amount in legal fees to keep his birth certificate hidden, it leads one to think that he is NOT a natural born citizen.

[bareford101]

If one has nothing to hide, one doesn’t hide things. This is proof enough.

[exist]

You just made Rick Sanchez's head explode.

[real_patriotic_american]

PING!

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Many people will immediately jump up and say “Obama produced a birth certificate, what more do you want?” Apparently Obama provided a certificate of live birth (COLB) which is not the same as a long form birth certificate. The long form birth certificate should provide evidence that can be corroborated. The COLB provided on factcheck.org does not show a hospital, doctor’s name or anything else that can be checked, just a time and city. This COLB can also be obtained by non citizens.

[TruthWillWin]

Lot of noise on this issue recently. Too bad it’s about a year too late.

[353FMG]

>>Is this really just some conspiracy theory along the lines of 9/11 truthers and alien cover ups? At first glance it seems like it.<<

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Why not dispel the conspiracy theory once and for all so that we may not have any further dissension?
OK Hussein, show us your long form BC. You owe this courtesy to the American people—they pay your salary.

[screaminsunshine]

Obviously Obama is NOT a natural born citizen and should be arrested and removed from office.

[Lou Budvis]

I kept on ignoring this issue, but the more I look at it, the more I think there is something there. Even if the original records were somehow lost, where are the baby pictures, witness affidavits, etc. showing that he was born in HI? I never saw a birth certificate that didn’t show height, weight, time of birth, etc.

Most importantly, he could end this by releasing it.

[dynachrome]

“Occidental College informed Newsweek that Obama enrolled as a foreign student (info at FreeRepublic). “

I believe this is a “not proven”. April fools hoax is what I saw on FR. Occidental has released no records that I am aware of.

[CaptainK]

"I think Obama will never release this information and even if it is true that he is not a natural citizen, that nothing will change."

I didn't know it was that easy to change the Constitution.

[real_patriotic_american]

Yes, regardless of where Obama was born, he is not a natural born citizen since his father was a Kenyan. Obama also lost natural born citizenship when he was adopted into Indonesia and became an Indonesian citizen.

[Dan(9698)]

prove he is a naturalized American citizen

This author really "understands the problem."

[marron]

A dual citizen has to choose which citizenship he will claim when he comes of age.

Thus its important, I think, what passport he used to travel to Pakistan, and its important if he attended college claiming to be a foreign student.

He apparently didn’t have a US passport until he was in congress, which means he traveled as an Indonesian citizen. That, in my opinion, cinches that.

And if he claimed to be a foreign student when he attended college, that again cinches that. Someone who has dual citizenship as a child has to choose when he becomes an adult. Having chosen to be other than a US citizen, he can’t come back later and run for president as a natural-born citizen.

This is quite separate from the question of “where” he was born.

The fact that all records that would shed light are off-limits tells anyone paying attention that he has reason not to show them.

[BP2]

For Obama's Aug. 4, 1961 birth in Honolulu, HA, to be accurate, the following improbable events needed to occur for his COLB to accurate:

1 month after starting classes, Stanley Ann Dunham, Barack’s mom, at age 17, got pregnant by just-about the only black African man on the entire chain of Hawaiian islands (the 1960 Census shows the population of blacks in Hawaii to be at 0.7 percent)

2 months after getting pregnant, she drops out of college.

3 months after getting pregnant, she marries BHO Sr.

10 months AFTER her first day at the Univ of Hawaii, she gives birth to BHO II at EITHER the Queen's or Kapiolani Medical Center, and immediately LEAVES behind:
a) her parents in Honolulu
b) her new husband in Honolulu, and
c) her new home in Honolulu (her parents had just moved there, reportedly in June 1960) ...
... to fly ALONE with a 3-week-old newborn baby 2,800 miles to Seattle to start college at the Univ of Washington.

Then ... Stanley Ann Dunham does not return to Hawaii until AFTER BHO Sr left the islands for Harvard, in Fall of 1962.

Even the Obots realize this is an implausible series of events is made even more suspicious in that -NEVER- does Obama Jr in his two books mention that his mom left Hawaii when she was married to BHO Sr, nor does he mention she was EVER in Washington State during their marriage until they were divorced in March 1964 ...

... occam's razor ...
... propensity of evidence ...
... reasonable doubt ...
... trust but verify...
... common sense ...

[Callahan]

The DUers have certainly latched onto “Birther” (think 9/11 Truther) as their pejorative of choice. I have my doubts that ZerO coule pull off a fraud of this magnitude, but would certainly laugh like a hyena if it turned out to be true. What are the informed people saying about the Honolulu advertiser Obama birth announcement that some Hillary blogger found on microfiche? That seemed to kill it for alot of people.

[a real Sheila]

You would think with the money he has available and the people who are willing to fall on the grenade for him that he would at least present a damned good forgery. He has the minions who are willing to swear to its authenticity!
That he won’t even do that shows his arrogance and he is thumbing his nose at America and saying, “I may or may NOT be a legal citizen. You will always have to wonder and cannot do a damned thing about it!”

[Non-Sequitur]

He would then have lost natural born citizenship if he even ever had it.

No he wouldn't.

[Star Traveler]

“Obama birth certificate issue not going away”

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Of course it’s not going away. It will still be around when Obama snips the ribbon on the opening of his Presidential Library... LOL...

[Wardenclyffe]

[Fantasywriter]

For malignant narcissists it is absolutely crucial to demonstrate their mental superiority. One of the main ways they do it is by pulling one over on other people. If Obama is not a naturalized citizen, I guarantee he’s not shaking in his shoes, worrying about being exposed. He’s laughing his butt off at all the dumb Americans he tricked into electing him.

[Peter Horry]

Get that ember HOT!