Posted on 07/21/2009 8:30:09 AM PDT by kenth
An Ohio man, fed up with deceptive junk mail, made the mistake of losing his temper while on the phone with a St. Louis company pitching an extended auto-service contract. Now he finds himself behind bars, where he is charged with making a terrorist threat.
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Pure BS.
They called him.
I used to get free phone sex from these “ladies”, but interrupting them and asking them what they were wearing.
Then, I’d start breathing heavy.
Some went with it.
Some put me on speakerphone.
Some screamed in terror and hung.
Those extended warranty companies are the most crooked around. I get their stupid scam calls several times a week, and sometimes on my cell phone. They mask their real phone number, and violate the Do Not Call rules. There should be immunity for threatening one of these scam artists. How many people threatened Madoff and his family the last few months? Are any of them in jail? This is ridiculous.
It’s not clear to me how he got to be in jail in St Louis.
I also wonder why the local cops lured him with a false story to arrest him for something that had to be done under federal jurisdiction.
Huh?! Wouldn't that be considered entrapment?
Yeah, it doesn’t make any sense.
I had a company in Utah make fraudulent charges to my credit card. I disputed them with my bank and then called the company. I asked them why they were making unauthorized charges. They said I didn’t have to be rude and they’d hang up if I continued.
Tracie Papenfus said her husband called a St. Louis telemarketing firm — she didn't know the name — after getting a mailer stating that the factory warranty had expired for the 1996 Ford Taurus driven by his 23-year-old son. The car, bought as-is for $3,000, hasn't had a factory warranty for years.
"He wanted to know, 'Why are you sending this when we've never had a warranty?'" Tracie Papenfus said.
In fact, Charles Papenfus asked that same question several times. He called the firm after receiving the mailer, then he called the company back to complain some more, said Douglas Forsyth, a local attorney representing Papenfus. The call during which Papenfus allegedly made a terrorist threat was initiated by the firm, in a response to a voice-mail message left by Papenfus, Forsyth said.
"They insulted each other," Forsyth said, adding that Papenfus called the company "a scam" and the telemarketer called Papenfus "a jackass or (an expletive) or both."
Forsyth said that, several minutes into the call, Papenfus said something about burning down the firm's building.
I had a telemarketer call me once and I just hung up without saying a word. He called back and startd to get on my case for hanging up on him. I hung up again without saying a word.
She told the person on the phone, “Sure, come down and give me a quote.”
She had a BRICK house. LOL.
see a difference?
do not believe hollywood. cops can lie in order to get someone to come in.
“Do you like golf Mr. Kramer?”
The problem is this guy had enough of their junk mail and their unwillingness to listen to reason. He blew up which many people would have done. There is no reason to believe he should have been arrested over it. Sure, the police could have talked to him, and warned him to not make anymore threats, but to keep him in jail since June 27th, 3 and a half weeks ago, over this is asinine.
can he not make bail? does he have a criminal/psychotic/violent history?
in today's age of pansies, you really cannot threaten anyone. they will take it serioulsy and report you. especially a business.
Hey I have heard of vinyl siding on a brick house. Must have been one heck of a salesman.
Although state laws will vary, police have pretty wide latitude in these sorts of things. Typically entrapment is when the police prompt somebody to take or initiate criminal activity they would not otherwise engage in. For example, having female police officers pose as prostitutes is generally not considered entrapment because there is a presumption that the john was initiating the criminal transaction. The police can use subterfuge to get criminals to go somewhere they can be easily apprehended. About once a year, the US Marshals will send out tickets to a play off game, concert, etc. to known fugitives and essentially gather them into one place (at least the ones stupid enough to show up).
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