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Solar eclipse pits superstition against science
news.yahoo ^ | Jul 19 | Phil Hazlewood

Posted on 07/20/2009 2:16:05 PM PDT by JoeProBono

Indian astrologers are predicting violence and turmoil across the world as a result of this week's total solar eclipse, which the superstitious and religious view as a sign of potential doom.

But astronomers, scientists and secularists are trying to play down claims of evil portent in connection with Wednesday's natural spectacle, when the moon will come between the Earth and the sun, completely obscuring the sun.

In Hindu mythology, the two demons Rahu and Ketu are said to "swallow" the sun during eclipses, snuffing out its life-giving light and causing food to become inedible and water undrinkable.

Pregnant women are advised to stay indoors to prevent their babies developing birth defects, while prayers, fasting and ritual bathing, particularly in holy rivers, are encouraged.

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Religion; Science; Society
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1 posted on 07/20/2009 2:16:06 PM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

Most of the world has a thin veneer of civilization on top of stupid to the bone.


2 posted on 07/20/2009 2:18:07 PM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: JoeProBono
I predict one amateur astronomer will beat another with his telescope when the second blocks the first's field of view.
3 posted on 07/20/2009 2:19:05 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (As a child Obama was rejected from Little League because of lack of a birth certificate.)
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To: JoeProBono
I'm glad I live in a civilized country when these celestial events happen.


4 posted on 07/20/2009 2:19:49 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby (The chair is against the wall. John has a long mustache.)
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To: JoeProBono
. . .which the superstitious and religious view as a sign of potential doom.

Well, maybe the religious in India view it that way.

5 posted on 07/20/2009 2:25:14 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: JoeProBono

Well, I was in Goldendale, Washington for the total eclipse on February 26, 1979. I figured that Portland would be clouded over, so I went a hundred miles east and over into Washington.

1979 Solar Eclipse - ABC News Coverage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAacZoIJUN0

No weird things happened to me physically... LOL...

It was strange, though, seeing the dark shadow racing up and covering us up...


6 posted on 07/20/2009 2:27:48 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: JoeProBono

A simple fact of geometry!

Like the Cainanites that worshiped trees that they had carved into phallics.


7 posted on 07/20/2009 2:30:13 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Kozak

Agreed, and the superstition moves from latent to overt when stress( i.e. crop failure, war, civil unrest, etc.) increases.


8 posted on 07/20/2009 2:31:19 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: MEGoody

I prefer watching for Sunspots. http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/mdi_igr/1024/latest.jpg


9 posted on 07/20/2009 2:34:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: JoeProBono
I prefer the Pink Floyd genre...


10 posted on 07/20/2009 2:39:14 PM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: newfreep

I’m in favor... of what I don’t know, but whatever it is, I’m in favor.


11 posted on 07/20/2009 2:42:49 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Dumpster Baby; JoeProBono

You said — I’m glad I live in a civilized country when these celestial events happen.

Ummmm..., it doesn’t take a “celestial event” for people to kill 50 million kids in this country. That’s just considered an “normal everyday event”.

That’s a “civilized country” for you...


12 posted on 07/20/2009 2:44:00 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: JoeProBono

I don’t think the world needs an eclipse to trigger violence and turmoil. It’s sort of like a rooster causing the sunrise. We already have violence and turmoil, and always have.


13 posted on 07/20/2009 2:44:51 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Star Traveler

Next total solar eclipse in this country....

Solar eclipse of August 21, 2017
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse_of_August_21,_2017

If I’m still around, I’m going to see if I can make it two total solar eclipses in my lifetime (but I have my doubts about this country by then... LOL...).


14 posted on 07/20/2009 2:47:48 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: JoeProBono
The Myth and Rituals of Eclipses
The Pomo

 The Pomo tribe of Native Americans are from the northwestern US. The Pomo name for a solar eclipse was "sun got bit bear." They tell a story about a bear who goes out for a stroll along the Milky Way. Soon Bear met up with the Sun and the two began to argue about who would move out of the other's path. The argument turned into a fight, which was represented by an eclipse of the Sun. Eventually the Bear continued along his way, but soon met up with the Moon, the Sun's sister. Again, an argument ensue about who would move over and again the argument turned into a fight. Now there was an eclipse of the Moon. After the eclipse Bear continued on his way along the Milky Way and the cycle repeated.

Eclipses according to the Ge'

The Ge' are among the Amazonian tribes of Brazil. They also believe that eclipses are a result of a fight between Sun and Moon. They say the eye of the Sun or Moon is pierced by a small boy who shoots them with an arrow. The wound bleeds symbolized by the Moon turning reddish and dimming. A shaman removes the arrow and the wound heals.

Hupa Indians of northern California

 The Moon is a man who has twenty wives and a house full of pets consisting of mountain lions, bears and snakes. To feed his pets, the man goes out to hunt. After the hunt he carries all the game back to his house for his pets, but they are not satisfied with what he has brought them. In anger, the pets attack the man, who begins to bleed. This is represented by the Moon turning a reddish colour during a lunar eclipse. One of the Moon's wives is Frog and when she sees the predicament her husband is in, she rushes to help him. Frog beats away the pets. Then she and the other wives collect up the Moon's blood and he can then recover.

Vikings

Skoll the wolf who shall scare the Moon
Till he flies to the Wood-of-Woe:
Hati the wolf, Hridvitnir's kin,
Who shall pursue the Sun.
              Grimnismal, The Elder Edda

The Vikings tell a tale about two wolves who wish to eat the Sun and Moon. Skoll (repulsion) goes after the Sun and Hati, running ahead of the Sun, goes after the Moon. When either are caught, there is an eclipse. When this happens, the people on Earth rush to rescue the Sun or Moon by making as much noise as they can in hopes of scaring off the wolves.

Serrano Indians

The Serrano Indians of California believe an eclipse is the spirits of the dead trying to eat the Sun or Moon. So during an eclipse, the shamans and ceremonial assistants sing and dance to appease the dead spirits while everyone else shouts to try and scare the spirits away. Meanwhile, everyone avoids eating food with the idea that it would starve the spirits out.

Chinese

The Moon was represented by a mirror in China. During an eclipse, people beating on mirrors is a very old tradition. It was believed that a dragon swallowed the Moon during an eclipse and beating the mirrors would cause the dragon to cough it up and return it to the sky.

 

http://starryskies.com/The_sky/events/lunar-2003/eclipse7.html

 

15 posted on 07/20/2009 2:48:47 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: JoeProBono

USA Eclipse Bonanza

As stated in the “When” section, solar eclpises occur in complex and unpredictable patterns — for practical purposes, at “random”. On average, though, any given spot on the Earth’s surface will see a total eclipse of the Sun once every 360 years or so. So seeing two total eclipses of the Sun at the same spot in just 7 years would be fairly remarkable — and seeing four total eclipses over a small region of the Earth in just 35 years would be incredible.

However, that’s exactly what’s going to happen in the middle of the United States in the next 50 years — four total eclipses of the Sun will cross a region just 600 miles across, within the space of 35 years. Two places in the USA will each see two total eclipses of the Sun separated by just 7 years. And as if that wasn’t enough, just 20 years later it happens again in Mexico, just over the border from Texas!

Here’s a map that shows the action in the south-east USA over the 21st century:

http://hermit.org/Eclipse/when_usa.html

I would sure like to be in on this *bonanza*... :-)


16 posted on 07/20/2009 2:59:45 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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17 posted on 07/20/2009 3:03:35 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: TaraP; Quix

Total solar eclipse mania in the U.S. coming up... soon...


18 posted on 07/20/2009 3:10:52 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler
I was in the Winnipeg, Canada area w/ some friends taking in the spectacle and experienced the same event.

(I'm still here... ;)

19 posted on 07/20/2009 3:12:32 PM PDT by mikrofon (Astro BUMP)
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To: Star Traveler

Unless God or the ET’s plan to add in some unusual somethings, sounds like yawn material, to me.

What’s your take on it?


20 posted on 07/20/2009 3:18:05 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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