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Do I understand this works without "the box?" .. (VANITY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWQhlmJTMzw ^ | July 19, 2009 | knarf

Posted on 07/19/2009 4:43:07 PM PDT by knarf

I have a "box" (gummint issue) and have yet to install it.

I came across this a couple of months ago and now I'm wonderin' if it works as shown.


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KEYWORDS: digitaltv; hdtv; tvreception
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Thanx to all FReepers for any input.
1 posted on 07/19/2009 4:43:07 PM PDT by knarf
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You'll still need "the box" or a TV with a digital tuner built in. In 2007 all TVs had to include a digital tuner (old stock could include a warning label that it didn't have one). Some TVs already had one before then.
2 posted on 07/19/2009 4:53:12 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (As a child Obama was rejected from Little League because of lack of a birth certificate.)
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To: KarlInOhio
OK ... the video didn't show a box, so I wasn't sure .... perhaps the video was made pre-box.

Thank you.

3 posted on 07/19/2009 4:56:35 PM PDT by knarf
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To: knarf

This will save you some money on an antenna but you still need the box if your tv doesn’t have a digital atsc/qam tuner.

I actually built one of those before the digital switch and worked great but since the switch I had to go purchase me a powered antenna. Reason being, as I have been told, is that before the switch stations used the power they provided for the analog signal for the digital signal as well. Since most analog channels required more power the digital signals were of course stronger. So when the switch began all of the stations by law were held to a certain power level. So I had to get a stronger antenna.


4 posted on 07/19/2009 4:58:15 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: knarf

The TV pictured at the end of the video was a newer model. Almost all new TV’s have built in digital tuners (as well as cable and satellite converters) , it’s the older TV sets that need the boxes.


5 posted on 07/19/2009 5:00:27 PM PDT by kaboom
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To: knarf

Some people just don’t easily fit into government issue boxes.

You are a true Freeper.


6 posted on 07/19/2009 5:02:32 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (I eat Cheerios's with out a Prescription!)
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To: aft_lizard
So ... the box I have and this contraption is NOT sufficient?

I MUST purchase a powered antenna?

(I have another TV that I bought a digital (powered) antenna and it works so-so ... perhaps because I am not using an outside, (high ?) antenna in my rural SW Pa. location?)

I get 5 channels .. 7.1, 7.2 ... 9,1, 9.2 and 9.3

7 posted on 07/19/2009 5:03:46 PM PDT by knarf
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To: knarf

I made one out of a piece of coax cable, some speaker wire and a couple of alligator clips and it worked pretty good. I had just moved into a new house (new construction) and the cable company was extremely hard to deal with and it took way too long to get hooked up.


8 posted on 07/19/2009 5:07:51 PM PDT by gunnut
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To: knarf

Not saying you will have to buy a new antenna just saying you might have too. I say build it and see if it works. They are great to put behind wall mounted TV’s.


9 posted on 07/19/2009 5:11:18 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: knarf
It depends on how far away your TV station is and how much power they transmit. Here are a couple websites that might help.

Antenna Web

TV Fool

10 posted on 07/19/2009 5:13:43 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (As a child Obama was rejected from Little League because of lack of a birth certificate.)
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To: knarf
That's just instructions to make a UHF quad stacked bowtie style antenna. A commercially available version is here. Digital television can broadcast on both UHF and VHF, and each band requires it's own antenna. The antenna made in that video is UHF only. If there are any VHF stations in your area, that antenna won't pick them up.

Important: ANY TELEVISION ANTENNA IS A DIGITAL TELEVISION ANTENNA. There is no difference between an "analog" and a "digital" antenna.

Make sure that there is a station or stations in your area broadcasting on VHF before you invest in a VHF antenna. In the good old analog days, you could tell simply by the channel number. 2-13 was VHF, and 14-69 was UHF.

However, with Digital Television, the "channel number" displayed is the station's old analog channel number, not necessarily the actual broadcast frequency they're using for their digital channel.

The best way to find out which channels are used in your area is to use TVFool.com. There you will find out what stations you should be able to receive in your area, what their virtual channel numbers are, and most importantly, what channels are used for broacast.

If there are no VHF stations in your area, then a good high gain UHF antenna will suffice for excellent reception. If there are VHF stations in your area (not just "Action News 7" but actually broadcasting on VHF as told by TVFool.com) then a combination UHF/VHF antenna is required.

But the most important thing to remember is DON'T EXPECT A CHEAP INDOOR ANTENNA TO WORK MIRACLES. For best reception, use either an attic mounted or outdoor antenna. If your stations are located in different directions, also strongly consider an antenna rotor.

11 posted on 07/19/2009 5:55:16 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Yo-Yo

OK ... so ... considering I have a smaller, digital (powered) antenna in the room with my TV, and all I get is a few channels (a neighbor, a few houses away, but higher on the ridge with less trees) gets 5 or 6 more channels .... a rotored outdoor antenna (coupled with the box) should do the job?


12 posted on 07/19/2009 6:02:11 PM PDT by knarf
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To: knarf

For us that live in the sticks, the new system works about as well as obamacare. This Phillips TV we bought because didn’t require a Box (only if you want it to work). If it aint broke, don’t fix it.
barbra ann


13 posted on 07/19/2009 6:19:16 PM PDT by barb-tex (Regardless of what you may have heard Sarah is not gone!)
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To: knarf

The standard bowtie antenna works better than any other I’ve tried. You can add a signal booster if needed. Aim the bowtie at the signal and make sure it is perfectly level.


14 posted on 07/19/2009 6:24:11 PM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: knarf

My TV set has a knob that I pull out to turn the set on and push in to turn it off. Volume is controlled with a twist of the knob.

After the June switch to digital, with the roof antenna for my apartment complex I got only two English language stations, and the antenna will not be upgraded.

My TV has rabbit ears. I put a wire hanger around the rabbit ears and a small unbent paper clip into the antenna plug on the converter box. I adjusted the paper clip so that it touches the wire hanger, and, voila, I now get the regular seven English channels I did before the original digital switch, plus a few more English channels, as well as some Spanish channels.


15 posted on 07/19/2009 6:59:05 PM PDT by clockwise
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To: knarf

Height is your friend. The higher up your antenna, the better your reception.

Check the TVFool website in my previous post, find out if you can use just an outdoor UHF antenna, or if you need a VHF/UHF combo. TVFool will also tell you if you really need a rotor or not. If most of your stations are from one direction, you probably don’t.

Give me just your zip code, and I can look it up for you if you wish.


16 posted on 07/19/2009 7:05:54 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Las Vegas Dave
Ping!
17 posted on 07/19/2009 7:08:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: knarf; SunkenCiv; ADemocratNoMore; advertising guy; aft_lizard; AJMaXx; Alice in Wonderland; ...
Pinging the HDTV list..

Knarf,
CLICK HERE: TV antennas.

HDTV pings!

18 posted on 07/20/2009 1:13:59 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave ("Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

all.. I threw out 2 antennas a few weeks ago. I still have two.. are they dinosaurs without further potential use? We did get Direct TV & have two TVs set up on it in the home.

I am a pack rat & save much to much to begin with..


19 posted on 07/20/2009 3:43:08 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!you)
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To: knarf
I have a "box"

Whatever you do, do not open that box!

20 posted on 07/20/2009 4:40:20 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Who's your Long Legged MacDaddy?)
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