Posted on 07/17/2009 2:43:34 PM PDT by max americana
Apple to Microsoft: Stop with the ads
Posted by Sharon Pian Chan Seattle Times
Microsoft said it received a call from Apple saying Microsoft needs to stop running the laptop-hunter TV ads that harp on Apple for expensive computers. Why? Because Apple has lowered its prices.
That's according to Microsoft Chief Operating Officer Kevin Turner, who said he took a call from an Apple attorney. two weeks ago. He initially thought it was a practical joke, then said he found out Apple had cut prices on its computers.
"It was the greatest single phone call that I’ve ever taken in the history of business," Turner said in a presentation at the Microsoft Worldwide Partners Conference in New Orleans. "I did cartwheels down the hallway."
I have a call in to Apple.
The television ads feature people shopping for a laptop and comparing prices on PCs and Macs. According to Microsoft, PCs have gained market share since the ads began running.
The ads were a response to Apple's relentless "I'm a Mac" ads teasing Microsoft mostly aboutproblems with Windows Vista. Click here to read about the Microsoft laptop hunter ads and check out the ad below:
(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...
Sorry your computers crash. Mine don’t have have not since Windows 98. I don’t own a MAC or any laptops, because they’re too proprietary.
I will, and I will run it on my Mac Pro.
What is proprietary about a Mac?
The VAST majority of peripherals made today work just fine with Macs. Plus I can run Windows software on my Mac. Can you run Mac software under Windows? I think not.
Oh, either you have a different definition of “crash,” you are the luckiest Windows user on the planet, or you are not being 100% truthful about your computing experience. The generally accepted definition of “crashing” is a program or the operating system coming to an unexpected halt. Are you really saying that under Windows ME and/or Windows 2000 and/or Windows XP and/or Windows Vista you have NEVER crashed?
You have to buy them from Apple.
The VAST majority of peripherals made today work just fine with Macs. Plus I can run Windows software on my Mac. Can you run Mac software under Windows? I think not.
Why in the world would you want to run Windows software? I don't want to run MAC software because I don't need it and don't want it. I assumed you felt the same in an opposite sort of way.
Are you really saying that under Windows ME and/or Windows 2000 and/or Windows XP and/or Windows Vista you have NEVER crashed?
Oh, I've locked up a PC on very rare occasion. Maybe five times in the last five years. But yours needs to be rebooted every day, so there's something else wrong. You're making a broad spectrum analysis about computers and operating systems based on a small sampling.
I use PC's for the same reason that John Dillinger robs banks.
Actually I started out with Apples back in the 80’s; I even used macs through college because that’s what the computer labs had, but when it came time to buy I bought a PC because you got so much more for your money. I’ve never had occasion to regret the switch. Yes, I’ve played with new Macs to try and see what the hype is all about, but I just don’t see how they’re worth the money. So the Mac is a “system” that will give me a “computing experience” eh? That sounds like bad Apple marketing copy. I think what you’re experiencing is Steve Jobs bending you over and giving you a thorough screwing. But it’s your money, so buy what you want.
>>That’s a very reasonable way of looking at it. If you want something that is even cheaper than a PC — and more reliable — go with Ubuntu.<<
I’ve actually experimented with that. The biggest problem is that my wife is used to Windows and she is not a computer geek, and my other computers use sound recording software that is Windows only. I actually tried it and liked it a lot.
My wife’s computer DOES use Openoffice. It was a quick learning curve for her.
My wife is a graphic artist/designer, and when she saw the ad where the girl says "I'm an artist and a PC", she chuckled and said, "Good luck with that."
I find it amazing that Apple is satisfied with the ten percent market share that they have. Would most likely be north of 50 percent if they dropped their prices. People would jump ship on Windows bloatware in droves.
My parents have a Mac. I hate it.
Sure it’s neat and clean without wires everywhere and they come in pretty colors, but I’ll take function over style any day. Everytime I use their computer I want to throw it throw a window.
The only Apple products I own is an iTouch and it cost me way more money than I would have normally spent on such an item. I love it, but it is not worth $350.
And that tells me that your experience with a Mac was long ago. It just simply does not agree with mine and most Mac users' experiences. For what are you "shelling out a couple of hundred dollars?"
fine, keep it. Cherish it. However, my reply did not attack the users... yours did. You imply that Mac users are deluded and therefor somehow mentally ill, incapable of seeing reality. That makes your argument worthless.
and now you are mischaracterizing what Crusher said... he said "I really like being able to work under XP and OS X at the same time and the only way to do that is with a Mac." That's a far cry from having to run XP on your Mac. That's a strawman argument.., another logical fallicy... and untruthful to boot, since that's not what he said.
So what? Your Windows OS is proprietary. That proprietary argument is bogus. Under that idea, Fords are proprietary, Chevys are proprietary, HP printers are proprietary. Why is it OK to have a single proprietary OS provider while it is not OK that Apple is the only maker of Macs?
You have to buy them from Apple.
You can also buy them at Best Buy. You can buy Macs on line from sources other than Apple as well. Yes, Apple makes Macs. Sony makes Sonys and Dell makes Dells. I don't get your point. I also don't think that where you buy them is a good definition of proprietary.
Why in the world would you want to run Windows software? I don't want to run MAC software because I don't need it and don't want it. I assumed you felt the same in an opposite sort of way.
I use the best tool available. The Mac version of QuickBooks is inadequate, so I run QuickBooks in XP on my Mac. The credit card terminal software I need is also not available for the Mac. I subscribe to a promotional product directory that uses proprietary software that only runs under Windows. I also like a particular web development program that is Windows only. For the graphics themselves, for video editing, photo editing, audio editing, most web browsing, word processing, and just about everything else, I use OS X.
You're making a broad spectrum analysis about computers and operating systems based on a small sampling.
Guess you missed the part about me being a Wintel guy since 1984. In my last job I was the network administrator for a company that encompassed 5 servers and 32 workstations running everything from Windows 98 through Vista. Believe me, I have been exposed to plenty of Windows systems. They crash. Regularly. BTW, I have built dozens of computers myself. Invariably some hardware conflicts with either another piece of hardware or some software. The dance then begins with the hardware guy blaming the software guy and vice verse. Don't have that with Mac. For instance I recently installed a new hard drive in my Mac Pro. I popped open the case, slid out the drive bay, screwed it in with four screws, slid it back in and turned on the computer. It instantly found the drive and I was reading and writing to it within five minutes of unpacking the drive. No cables to attach, no drivers to load, no formatting, no drive manager software needed.
I was where you are two years ago. I was forced to sit down with someone who really knew Macs and who showed me, instance by instance, item by item, bit by bit, how the Macs were better. I was highly resistant, but once I realized the value of my time, and how much wasted time I spent on just keeping the darn things running, I came to understand that a computer is a tool and it is silly to reject better machines based on outdated prejudices. The only draw back to Macs is a dearth of games, which is probably a good thing for my overall productivity!
"Pretty colors?" Black and aircraft grade aluminum for 90% of the Mac computers... and white for just one model. When was the last time you even looked at a Mac? 2001?
I have to look at a Mac everytime I go to my parents’ house and I obviously am not a Mac person so, no, I don’t pay attention to what variations they offer.
No need to be rude.
Operating system upgrades, for one. At least with MS, you get patches every once in a while, or some productivity enhancement.
Mac I’m using now is a G4 Titanium, which is still pretty old I guess.
It would not be possible for me to care less about macs. Not one of my clients uses them, case closed. I’m glad you have a choice, but this is way too much pen** envy going on here.
What exactly makes you want to throw it out a window? My experience has been the exact opposite. My desire to ever throw my computer out the window left when I left Windows. In fact in most cases the most frustrating piece of software I have these days is a MS product - Office.
So what? Your Windows OS is proprietary.
Good! I'm happy for you that you feel that you have the bigger and badder computer thing. But OS wars are a waste of time. Now go and make money with your mac.
My entry into this thread was to comment on the cleverness of advertising men. I couldn't give a rats ars what computer anyone else here uses.
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