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Do you think that pets go to heaven ? ( Vanity )
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Posted on 07/13/2009 5:57:16 PM PDT by sushiman

Last night we had to put the last of our three Boston Terriers to sleep . She had a long life of 13 and a half years , but of course my wife and I were very deeply saddened , but it was the best and only humane thing to do . Momo was the mother of Toto who died last year at this time , and of Max who passed two years ago . I like to believe that our beloved pets meet us again in heaven , but so many folks argue that animals have no souls so cannot enter heaven . What do you all think ?


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To: sushiman

Great minds think alike, separated by four seconds! :)


21 posted on 07/13/2009 6:12:31 PM PDT by 6323cd (Loyal Oppostion My Ass)
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To: sushiman
I do. There are numerous Biblical passages that, taken in totality, indicate a reward for suffering, for the "lesser creatures."

I've gone into this topic before at length, and would be happy to do so again, but the foundation of this understanding begins with Romans 8:18-24.

In particular, look for John Wesley's sermon The General Deliverance, which should be readily available via web search.

22 posted on 07/13/2009 6:13:57 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: sushiman

The Garden had flowers and animals. Heaven is even better so how could there not be either one?


23 posted on 07/13/2009 6:14:32 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: sushiman

I believe each species (not including man) has its own group mind. He maintains a rapport with it when he is alive. This is the basis of “instinct”. When an animal dies he goes right back into that collective cat or dog mind.


24 posted on 07/13/2009 6:15:59 PM PDT by bilhosty (Tax payers for change)
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To: sushiman

I think you need another terrier...wire hairs are my personal fav


25 posted on 07/13/2009 6:16:52 PM PDT by justkate
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To: sushiman

I’m sorry for your loss. I’m not much of a Bible scholar, but whatever happens will be God’s will, and you’ll be OK with how it works out.

Blessings,

MB


26 posted on 07/13/2009 6:17:36 PM PDT by MarineBrat (The New York Times is a Communist Kamikaze.)
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To: sushiman

I had to make the decision with my 16 yr old shepard last year. I underestimated how hard it would be.

Now, I haven’t been to a Sunday church service in 40 years, but if there’s ever a creature on this Earth that deserves to have a Heaven, it’s a dog.

Hopefully, she’ll get to see ME again.


27 posted on 07/13/2009 6:18:38 PM PDT by digger48
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To: sushiman

Two things: First, we’ve had a number of cats and dogs over the years — each unique, each with a personality very different from all others. If they were totally instinct driven by DNA, only, it seems to me they’d all be exactly alike. You can almost see the little wheels and gears of their individual intellects spinning inside those little heads as they puzzle something new out. There is Mind in those heads. I don’t know about soul, but I have clearly experienced those Minds.

Secondly, animals are expressions of God’s creation and creativity. Why would he waste such good work?

When you try to visualize Heaven, do you see grass or trees or any other such plants and flowers. (I do.) Then surely these small magnificent animal creations belong in that scene. With you.

I had a brief impression once about arriving in Heaven, and ALL the little creatures I had ever known were all there, surrounding me.

Finally, the fact that we can love them in ways we cannot connect with things like cars or even homes speaks to me of their transcendent existence, of their “spark within” that can’t be defined, but can be clearly felt.

I do hope this is somehow a valid vision. One day, we’ll know.


29 posted on 07/13/2009 6:19:24 PM PDT by William of Barsoom (Grace under pressure will win the day!)
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To: sushiman
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Go Go (hardcore Anti Kenyan / Marxist -Leninist) Just diagnosed last week with canine lymphoma. Never gives up. No quit in her at all.

30 posted on 07/13/2009 6:20:00 PM PDT by atc23
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To: digger48

Well, gee. That actually gave me a lump in my throat.

I know whereof you speak.


31 posted on 07/13/2009 6:20:17 PM PDT by justkate
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To: sushiman

I am so sorry for your loss. I just lost my cat in February, and asked the same question. The loss seems easier to handle if we think we’ll see them again!

And thanks to all in this thread who have cited Scripture, where animals are mentioned in the afterlife. If horses, lions and lambs will be there, hopefully our dogs and cats will be as well!

Thank you, Lord, for your Word.


32 posted on 07/13/2009 6:22:54 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: sushiman

It is probably theologically incorrect (according to the RC Church)but I believe that pets go to heaven. Not a separate place, either, but where we are. Is that a heresy?
If so, it must be a very minor one. Catsanddogsagensian.

Lots of thoughtful posts on here give good reasons why pets should be in heaven.

I just have a gut feeling they are there because God loves us and wants us to be happy with Him. So why not let us have our pets?

There’s plenty of room in heaven. And no litter boxes.


33 posted on 07/13/2009 6:24:49 PM PDT by Palladin (Let's help Sarah take back America!)
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To: willfreep4food

“...Since animals also have spirits...”

Oh, Good Grief!?!??!?!?!?


34 posted on 07/13/2009 6:25:25 PM PDT by G Larry
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To: willfreep4food

: )


35 posted on 07/13/2009 6:27:45 PM PDT by shineon
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To: sushiman
If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went.
- Will Rogers
36 posted on 07/13/2009 6:27:59 PM PDT by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: sushiman

My answer to your question: I don’t know. I hope they do, I truly do, but I don’t know. I only know the Ways of HaShem are right and I have to leave it with him.


37 posted on 07/13/2009 6:28:22 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vehorashtem 'et-ha'aretz viyshavtem-bah; ki lakhem natati 'et-ha'aretz lareshet 'otah.)
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To: TEXOKIE

From what I understand Boxers go straight to heaven because it wouldn’t be heaven without them, Rottweilers go to Purgatory for being so mean, and schnauzers get the hot place for eternity.


38 posted on 07/13/2009 6:29:50 PM PDT by Radl (sai)
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To: sushiman

If dogs can go to heaven, then they can go to hell too.

Now try explaining to me how dogs will be judged and saved or condemned.


39 posted on 07/13/2009 6:32:18 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: HighWheeler; peyton randolph
Dogs and Heaven

An old man and his dog were walking down this dirt road with fences on both sides, they came to a gate in the fence and looked in, it was nice - grassy,woody areas, just what a ‘huntin’ dog and man would like, but, it had a sign saying ‘no trespassing’ so they walked on.

They came to a beautiful gate with a person in white robes standing there. “Welcome to Heaven” he said. The old man was happy and started in with his dog following him.

The gatekeeper stopped him. “Dogs aren’t allowed, I’m sorry but he can’t come with you.”

“What kind of Heaven won’t allow dogs? If he can’t come in, then I will stay out with him. He’s been my faithful companion all his life, I can’t desert him now.“

“Suit yourself, but I have to warn you, the Devil’s on this road and he’ll try to sweet talk you into his area, he’ll promise you anything, but, the dog can’t go there either. If you won’t leave the dog, you’ll spend Eternity on this road “

So the old man and dog went on. They came to a rundown fence with a gap in it, no gate, just a hole. Another old man was inside.

“Scuse me Sir, my dog and I are getting mighty tired, mind if we come in and sit in the shade for awhile?”

“Of course, there’s some cold water under that tree over there. Make yourselves comfortable “

“You’re sure my dog can come in? The man down the road said dogs weren’t allowed anywhere.”

“Would you come in if you had to leave the dog?”

“ No sir, that’s why I didn’t go to Heaven, he said the dog couldn’t come in. We’ll be spending Eternity on this road, and a glass of cold water and some shade would be mighty fine right about now. But, I won’t come in if my buddy here can’t come too, and that’s final. “

The man smiled a big smile and said “Welcome to Heaven.”

“You mean this is Heaven? Dogs ARE allowed? How come that fellow down the road said they weren’t?”

“That was the Devil and he gets all the people who are willing to give up a life long companion for a comfortable place to stay. They soon find out their mistake, but, then it’s too late. The dogs come here, the fickle people stay there. GOD wouldn’t allow dogs to be banned from Heaven. After all, HE created them to be man’s companions in life, why would he separate them in death?”

Author Earl Hamner
The Twilight Zone

40 posted on 07/13/2009 6:33:17 PM PDT by 11Bush
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