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Weekly Gardening Thread – 2009 Vol.8 – July 03
FreeRepublic | 7-03-09 | Red_Devil 232

Posted on 07/03/2009 4:00:47 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232

Good morning to all of you gardeners. I hope every one of you have a safe and Happy 4th of July weekend! Since just about everyone grows tomatoes in their vegetable garden I thought I would share some information I stumbled across concerning when to pick your tomatoes.

Every tomato lover knows fresh, “vine-ripe” flavor is by far the best.

At the same time, many don’t know what “vine ripe” means. So, whether growing or buying tomatoes, they may be limiting their access to the top flavor of the season.

Tomatoes develop their optimum nutrition, color and flavor when they’re in the full red-ripe stage. But getting to that point doesn’t have to occur on the plant.

Tomatoes go through specific steps in developing “vine ripeness”:

* A gas called ethylene regulates the ripening process. Tomatoes start producing this gas internally when they reach full size and become pale green.

* When tomatoes turn about one-half green and one-half pink (called the breaker stage), a layer of cells forms across their stem, sealing them off from the main vine. At this stage, tomatoes can ripen on or off the vine with no loss of quality or flavor.

* Tomatoes don’t ripen at refrigerator temperatures. If harvested in the breaker stage, however, keeping them in a cool place (to a minimum 50 F) will slow down their ripening process. Keeping them warm (to a maximum 85 F) will rapidly bring full ripeness. And, once ripe, they can keep for several weeks in the refrigerator.

This kind of control allows you to spread out the good eating over a longer period. A breaker-stage harvest also allows you to protect tomatoes from the heat extremes of summer. Tomatoes can’t form their red pigments when temperatures are above 95 degrees. They’ll still ripen, but they’ll end up a yellowish-orange.

Leaving tomatoes to ripen on the vine also increases the odds for cracking and other types of damage. Plus, it puts an increasing weight load on the viney plant.


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To: MaxMax
Wow! What a beautiful flower for an okra plant! I will have to try growing okra next season.

How do you roast them?

181 posted on 07/08/2009 5:36:13 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: MaxMax

I’d like to know, too.


182 posted on 07/08/2009 5:45:11 PM PDT by CH3CN
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To: Red_Devil 232; CH3CN; gorush
How do you roast them?

I just throw them over the coals when I'm grilling, it makes them really
sweet and not quite as slimy "for those who don't like the slime". Also a nice addition to Ka-Bobs

Plant at least 12-14 Okra for a decent supply up until frost time.
You can plant them closer also.

Those tulips are cool.

183 posted on 07/08/2009 5:55:31 PM PDT by MaxMax (America's population is 304-Million. Obama must punish America for the other 4.7 Billion)
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To: Red_Devil 232; CH3CN; gorush
Oh, you can pick the flowers every morning and place them in a glass of water
to add to salads. The flowers are really good, silky texture and
no wild flavors, they're very mild.
184 posted on 07/08/2009 6:15:59 PM PDT by MaxMax (America's population is 304-Million. Obama must punish America for the other 4.7 Billion)
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To: MaxMax

Er, pick the petals not the flowers.


185 posted on 07/08/2009 6:17:02 PM PDT by MaxMax (America's population is 304-Million. Obama must punish America for the other 4.7 Billion)
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To: abner

It’s looking more and more like an heirloom mater. Anybody’s guess as to which one.


186 posted on 07/08/2009 8:01:27 PM PDT by gardengirl
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Nut grass as a bio fuel?! LOL I’ll be able to share the wealth—with the whole world!


187 posted on 07/08/2009 8:03:22 PM PDT by gardengirl
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To: Red_Devil 232; MtnClimber
That seed saving method is pretty much the way I do it.

Just a few suggestions. Smooth out the seed gel with your
fingers after it is in the container. This will help it
mix easier with the added water.

When adding water, start by adding tablespoons at a time.
The article claimed up to a cup. That's’ a lot unless
you've cut up MANY toms of the same variety.

It may take 3-8 days for the mold to completely cover
the container surface-depending on temperature conditions

After rinsing the seeds clean, I DO USE a paper towel to
soak up additional water. I then place a sheet of wax
paper on a paper plate so the seeds won't dry and stick
to the plate.

Don't forget to write the variety name and date on the
plate. It should take about 7 days to two weeks for the
seeds to totally dry out. Gage it by humidity conditions.

When wet, the seeds will clump together. As they are
drying, i use a small pen knife to separate the seeds
so they will dry faster and more evenly.

High shelves are usually the safest place to store the
seeds during the drying process.

JJ61

188 posted on 07/08/2009 8:05:38 PM PDT by JerseyJohn61 (Better Late Than Never.......sometimes over lapping is worth the effort....)
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To: JerseyJohn61

JJ61, Thanks for the tips! I was just wondering what your favorite variety of heirloom tomato is?


189 posted on 07/09/2009 8:59:32 AM PDT by MtnClimber (Bernard Madoff's ponzi scheme looks remarkably similar to the way Social Security works)
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To: MtnClimber

I need to brake out my list and do some thinking on rankings and ratings. I’ll get back to you soon MC

JJ61


190 posted on 07/09/2009 6:57:24 PM PDT by JerseyJohn61 (Better Late Than Never.......sometimes over lapping is worth the effort....)
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To: JerseyJohn61

The Cherokee Purple looks interesting. How do you like it?


191 posted on 07/10/2009 7:21:57 AM PDT by MtnClimber (Bernard Madoff's ponzi scheme looks remarkably similar to the way Social Security works)
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To: MtnClimber
Cherokee Purple is amazing. It is often categorized as a
a Black instead of a Purple(Purples are actually DEEP
PINKS). CPs are unusually colored. Grayish, dusky Rose
to brickish Red. Often with green shoulders.

A truly reliable variety. Dependable sprouters, growers
and good producers. A rich, complex flavor that often
becomes a favorite.

There is a sub variety, Cherokee Chocolate(brownish red),
that also gets rave reviews.

I've grown CP every years since ‘05, and despite needing
new space for new varieties, it always finds its way on
my final grow list.

The Cherokee PEOPLE have been growing this variety in the
southeast since before 1900. Craig Lehoullier introduced
this variety to the public after having been given a few
seeds some years back. It has become one of the most
listed in heirloom catalogs.

JJ61

192 posted on 07/10/2009 8:53:42 PM PDT by JerseyJohn61 (Better Late Than Never.......sometimes over lapping is worth the effort....)
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To: gardengirl

It’s working! The plants are turning green again. However, think I will make another very small application of the epsom salts and potash, next week. By small, I mean about 1/4 teaspoon each. Many thanks for the advice.


193 posted on 07/11/2009 12:56:15 PM PDT by tob2 (I would rather have a nuclear power plant in my backyard than Gitmo detainees.)
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To: tob2

I am so glad! Often, what works in one place is a disaster in another. I’m happy that I didn’t kill your plants with kindness! LOL

Epsom salt you can mix a tablespoon to a gallon of water, once a week. Be very careful with the potash.


194 posted on 07/11/2009 2:29:08 PM PDT by gardengirl
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To: Red_Devil 232
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The Yellow Squash is more yellow than any I've ever seen


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My first Tobacco Flower


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Tobacco Row

195 posted on 07/12/2009 2:46:42 PM PDT by MaxMax (America's population is 304-Million. Obama must punish America for the other 4.7 Billion)
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To: MaxMax
Beautiful! The color on that squash is great!

What do you do with the tobacco - I mean, is it for a pipe or cigarettes?

196 posted on 07/12/2009 4:21:30 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Cigs for the next year. I refuse to pay uncle sam the taxes when I can grow my own.
I'll make some snuff and a few cigars but overall it's for Cigs. I should save over 1.3k for the year.
197 posted on 07/12/2009 4:52:21 PM PDT by MaxMax (America's population is 304-Million. Obama must punish America for the other 4.7 Billion)
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To: MaxMax

Er, make that about $2100 saved for the next year.


198 posted on 07/12/2009 4:55:29 PM PDT by MaxMax (America's population is 304-Million. Obama must punish America for the other 4.7 Billion)
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To: MaxMax

How many Cigs will your crop make?


199 posted on 07/12/2009 5:02:48 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
The current crop should produce about 18 cartons of Cigs, but I have 30 more
seedlings to put into bags for a late harvest. The plants I'm raising
are said to produce 1-3lbs per plant, and yea they are heavy plants.
This is my first year growing so I'll have to look at my notes at the end of
the growing cycle to be accurate. And those tobacco Worms are addicted
to my plants already. At least I know where they are, and not eating up the
rest of the garden.
200 posted on 07/12/2009 6:03:38 PM PDT by MaxMax (America's population is 304-Million. Obama must punish America for the other 4.7 Billion)
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