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To: grey_whiskers

I may have led you astray there. I would imagine a strong likelihood of lethal secondary pneumonia infections from novel influenza; however, these will be so horribly overwhelmed by the cytokine storm mortality numbers as to be almost unnoticeable.

Arsenic and influenza:

http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/552624/

I would also add that there is a four-drug recipe targeting some of the major components of the (about 150) cytokine response elements, which may be enough to settle down the immune system until the threat is passed. Only one of the four is prescription, and it has an OTC substitute.

The first is an ACE-2 inhibitor, normally prescribed for hypertension. Its substitute is 15,000 IU of Vitamin D for two weeks.

The second drug is a Histamine-1 blocker. Ordinary Benedryl.

The third drug is a Histamine-2 blocker. Tagamet, usually used for acid reflux.

The fourth drug is Advil, Ibuprofen. It is a prostaglandin blocker.

Importantly, all four drugs have to be taken for the hoped for effect of stabilizing the immune response.

And, of course, the fifth drug, which is independent of the recipe, is a statin drug, such as Lipitor or Crestor, which according to data mining from a 16,000 person medical records sample group, makes somebody 40% less likely to die from Acute Respiratory Distress *and* Pneumonia.


9 posted on 06/17/2009 6:50:05 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Thanks, bookmarked for later.

Do you take the 4 OTC medications as a prophylactic, or shortly after infection -- except for the Vitamin D, which you should do for two weeks?

Cheers!

10 posted on 06/17/2009 7:08:58 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Turmeric (in the form of high potency curcuminoids) has a pronounced anti-cytokine effect. Many published papers returned on a search of curcumin+cytokine. Curcumin is resident in my flu kit.

A couple of months ago I posted the statin study showing the protective effect against ARDS. An anti-psychotic drug has also been used for its anti-cytokine effect but at the moment which one escapes me.


12 posted on 06/17/2009 8:02:10 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
You've listed my "night time formula". I'm only taking 2,000 IU of vitamin D, but the nightly regimen includes ibuprofen, benedryl and an antacid to prevent the continued dissolution of my back teeth by excessive stomach acid. The ibuprofen shuts down the back pain from arthritis enough to allow me to sleep. The benedryl stops my skin from itching, eyes watering and itching and nose running. The vitamin D supplement compensates for insufficient exposure to sunlight at my latitude AND my propensity to burn and peel.
16 posted on 06/17/2009 9:32:43 PM PDT by Myrddin
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