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SWAMPSNIPERPRESS ^ | JUNE 02, 2009 | swampsniper

Posted on 06/02/2009 4:47:26 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER

Is this subject to abuse? Someone sent me this video so I don't know the details. I expect we will hear a lot more about it soon.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: intimidation; lping; privacy; surveilance
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
I have come to believe that government is no longer to be trusted, by anyone who wants to be free. If anything can be abused, it will be!

Government was never meant to be trusted. That's why you have the Constitution.

If you can keep it, I'm sorry to say. :-(

21 posted on 06/02/2009 5:46:47 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: SouthDixie
"...if it gets criminals off the streets, I'm all for it."

You mean criminals like the DHS tried to warn about?

 

 

DHS Warns of 'Right-Wing Extremists'


22 posted on 06/02/2009 6:25:29 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: KrisKrinkle
Thanks for the article, I remember it happening prior to the TEA parties and the loony lefties going off their rocker.
I also remember the Black Panthers at the polling booths and the overkill security at Notre Dame University.
I guess I've been looking at my safe little corner of the world and didn't look at the grand sceme of the situation.
Though, I am concerned with the recent Muslim converts slithering their way across America and popping up in cities when least expected.
23 posted on 06/02/2009 7:01:15 PM PDT by SouthDixie (We are but angels with one wing, it takes two to fly.)
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To: SouthDixie
Believe me, I share your concerns. And I wish I could feel confident that technology like this would be used only against the “deserving” (which will never include you and I of course :) ).

But too often there seems to be a “mission” creep in these kinds of things.

They sold the seat belt law in Ohio saying it would never be a primary offense.

RICO was only going to be used against what we think of as the Mafia and similar criminal organizations.

And who would have thought they would use SWAT Teams the way they do?

We have to be careful about stuff like this.

24 posted on 06/02/2009 7:13:27 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: KoRn; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...
Just damn.



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25 posted on 06/02/2009 11:03:19 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: fanfan

That car was used in an armed robbery?

I thought you Yanks ran a gun-free zone! ;p


26 posted on 06/02/2009 11:04:39 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: SouthDixie; All
I have nothing to hide.

"The "nothing to hide" argument speaks to some problems, but not to others. It represents a singular and narrow way of conceiving of privacy, and it wins by excluding consideration of the other problems often raised in government surveillance and data mining programs. When engaged with directly, the "nothing to hide" argument can ensnare, for it forces the debate to focus on its narrow understanding of privacy. But when confronted with the plurality of privacy problems implicated by government data collection and use beyond surveillance and disclosure, the "nothing to hide" argument, in the end, has nothing to say."...

..."I've Got Nothing to Hide" and Other Misunderstandings of Privacy by Daniel J. Solove, George Washington University Law School San Diego Law Review, Vol. 44, No. #, 2007; GWU Law School Public Law Research Paper No. 289.

27 posted on 06/03/2009 2:29:27 AM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: SWAMPSNIPER; All
Is this subject to abuse?

A good article on the subject... If you have nothing to hide, you have everything to fear By Michael Hampton

28 posted on 06/03/2009 2:45:19 AM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: bamahead

When guns are outlawed....


29 posted on 06/03/2009 4:56:24 AM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: smokingfrog
smokingfrog wrote:
"That was in Canada. I wonder if there is anything that would prevent it from being used in the states? (Or is it already being used?)"

The system is being extensively used in the UK and Motorola is actively marketing it to police agencies in the US. For example it is being used by the Sarasota County Sheriff in Florida.

jedi150 wrote:

"Police State aka Canada"

A dog sniffs its own arse first.

30 posted on 06/03/2009 4:57:13 AM PDT by Clive
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To: SWAMPSNIPER; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...

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31 posted on 06/03/2009 5:01:15 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive

Hey, I’m older than dirt, don’t expect perfection!


32 posted on 06/03/2009 5:04:49 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: SouthDixie
...if they bring me and my vehicle up on their radar, I have nothing to hide.

That's part of the problem. Eventually government will become so powerful & out of control that all of us will eventually have something to hide.

Back in WWII Germany all you needed to hide was your genetic make-up (ever heard of the Holocaust?); in the Soviet USSR, it was your class position & also your ethnicity.

In today's USA it is the contents in your urine...&, thanks to Obama, your religious & political views, & eventually, who knows what else?

33 posted on 06/03/2009 6:19:58 AM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

“AOPR is going to revolutionize the way we police in North America.”

Scary thought, ain’t it?


34 posted on 06/03/2009 6:25:59 AM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: SouthDixie
...if it gets criminals off the streets, I'm all for it.

I bet the crime rate in North Korea is pretty low. YIPPEEEEEEEEE!!!

35 posted on 06/03/2009 6:31:47 AM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: ChrisInAR; SouthDixie

>>That’s part of the problem. Eventually government will become so powerful & out of control that all of us will eventually have something to hide.

On that note, see the first quote on my FR profile page.


36 posted on 06/03/2009 6:32:44 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Welcome to the Panopticon.


37 posted on 06/03/2009 6:51:58 AM PDT by oblomov (Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods. - Mencken)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
"Is this subject to abuse?"

Sure, everything is these days.
But there has to be at least a half dozen ways to fool the stupid computer, also.

Locate an auto of the same make & color. Stealthily swap plates, & voila'.

Fooled the computer.
While the clueless LEO blissfully cruises through the parking lot/highway/road on their *nice* ride.

38 posted on 06/03/2009 7:04:31 AM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
I have come to believe that government is no longer to be trusted, by anyone who wants to be free.

Why would any free person EVER have trusted the government, even in more innocent times. There's a reason it's called the govern-ment.

39 posted on 06/03/2009 10:41:22 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: oblomov
Welcome to the Panopticon.

Yes. If we have nothing to hide, we should even have every room of our homes under government surveillance, and online.

40 posted on 06/06/2009 8:22:42 PM PDT by secretagent
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