Posted on 05/20/2009 8:31:56 AM PDT by Trueblackman
The Iranian based Press Tv has invited me on at 1pm E.S.T. to debate the expiring of Obama's 120 days freeze on Gitmo Trials for suspected terrorists.
As we all know during the campaigns Obama and his Democrat allies kept referring to Gitmo as an international Blackeye and his desire to close it, but what sounds good off the teleprompter does not sound in reality as Obama and his allies now face a backlash from voters, who don't want these suspects in their backyard awaiting trials in civilian courts and exposing out dangerous suspects to their mindset.
In short it seems voters after much thought have taken the mindset of, "not in my back yard." and Gitmo might be a Blackeye, but it a Blackeye that they can live with as long as these suspects are kept away from them.
Iranian based TV? Will it be a typical 10 goons against 1 guy forum?
Good luck.
Iranian TV? Why do I get a queasy feeling about that? How do you know that they will translate your words correctly?
They’re not “suspects”. They were captured on the battlefield as illegal combatants and could have been shot on sight like any other Mercenary. They live because they might have information we need to know to stop their comrades.
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And Then There Was Only Guantánamo . . . [Victor Davis Hanson]
With the Democratic no-go on Guantánamo (I’ll leave it to the better informed to ascertain the degree that the Democratic Congress came to the rescue of an embarrassed Obama administration and cut off funding for the shutdown to allow him an out with the now familiar excuse of “they did it — not me, who keeps promises”), I think we now have come to the end to the five-year left-wing attack theme of Bush “shredding the Constitution.”
Except for the introduction of euphemisms and a few new ballyhooed but largely meaningless protocols, there is no longer a Bush-did-it argument. The Patriot Act, wiretaps, e-mail intercepts, military tribunals, Predator drone attacks, Iraq, Afghanistan — and now Guantánamo — are officially no longer part of the demonic Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld nexus, but apparently collective legitimate anti-terrorism measures designed to thwart killers, and by agreement, after years of observance, of great utility in keeping us safe the last eight years.
Add in the Holder statements about Guantánamo in the 2002 interview, the Pelosi/Rockefeller/et al. waterboarding briefings, the need to consider torture in past statements by senators such as Schumer, and I think historians will now look back at these “dark years” as largely a collective, bipartisan effort.
All of which leaves us a final musing: If so, what was the hysteria of 2001-2008 about other than simple politics?
I doubt we get any more movies about ongoing renditions, redactions, any more Checkpoint-like novels, any more waterboarding skits and reenactments, any more late-night comedians doing their Bush tapped, intercepted, tortured, renditioned, tribunaled poor suspect X routines.
And I guess as well that the good old days of supposedly flushed Korans in Guantánamo and Omar the poor liberationist renditioned to Cairo are over. We are now in the age of a sober and judicious President Obama who circumspectly, if reluctantly and in anguish at the high cost, does what is necessary to keep us safe.
And we won’t see a brave young liberal senator, Obama-like, barnstorming the Iowa precincts blasting a presidency for trampling our values with the shame of Guantánamo, wiretaps, intercepts, renditions, military tribunals, Predators, Iraq, etc. That motif just dissolved — or rather, it never really existed.
In short, all the fury, the vicious slander, the self-righteous outbursts, the impassioned speeches from the floor, the “I accuse” op-eds by the usual moralistic pundits — all that turned out to be solely about politics, nothing more.
Thanks for the heads up.
Kick some ass.
It is English Based TV.
Ask them if they'd like to take the Gitmo prisoners back to Iran and 'reform' them for The American President in an effort resolve this isssue.
You Know, like the Saudies with their citizen terrorists.
obama’s reversal is merely another example of his morphing into GWB as he grows up. perhaps he’ll eventually turn into GWB should he ever mature...
a little tidbit.
Judge says US can hold detainees indefinitely
The Judge is a Sept. 4, 2001 Bush appointee. ironic?
You will do well...
Kevin, let them have it!
Give ‘em heck man!
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