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1 posted on 05/20/2009 8:31:56 AM PDT by Trueblackman
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Iranian based TV? Will it be a typical 10 goons against 1 guy forum?


2 posted on 05/20/2009 8:33:56 AM PDT by lormand ("Janet Napolitano should resign or be fired." - Congressman John Carter - My Congresscritter)
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To: Trueblackman

Good luck.


3 posted on 05/20/2009 8:35:18 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Trueblackman

Iranian TV? Why do I get a queasy feeling about that? How do you know that they will translate your words correctly?


4 posted on 05/20/2009 8:36:09 AM PDT by theDentist (qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspell.)
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And Then There Was Only Guantánamo . . . [Victor Davis Hanson]

With the Democratic no-go on Guantánamo (I’ll leave it to the better informed to ascertain the degree that the Democratic Congress came to the rescue of an embarrassed Obama administration and cut off funding for the shutdown to allow him an out with the now familiar excuse of “they did it — not me, who keeps promises”), I think we now have come to the end to the five-year left-wing attack theme of Bush “shredding the Constitution.”

Except for the introduction of euphemisms and a few new ballyhooed but largely meaningless protocols, there is no longer a Bush-did-it argument. The Patriot Act, wiretaps, e-mail intercepts, military tribunals, Predator drone attacks, Iraq, Afghanistan — and now Guantánamo — are officially no longer part of the demonic Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld nexus, but apparently collective legitimate anti-terrorism measures designed to thwart killers, and by agreement, after years of observance, of great utility in keeping us safe the last eight years.

Add in the Holder statements about Guantánamo in the 2002 interview, the Pelosi/Rockefeller/et al. waterboarding briefings, the need to consider torture in past statements by senators such as Schumer, and I think historians will now look back at these “dark years” as largely a collective, bipartisan effort.

All of which leaves us a final musing: If so, what was the hysteria of 2001-2008 about other than simple politics?

I doubt we get any more movies about ongoing renditions, redactions, any more Checkpoint-like novels, any more waterboarding skits and reenactments, any more late-night comedians doing their Bush tapped, intercepted, tortured, renditioned, tribunaled poor suspect X routines.

And I guess as well that the good old days of supposedly flushed Korans in Guantánamo and Omar the poor liberationist renditioned to Cairo are over. We are now in the age of a sober and judicious President Obama who circumspectly, if reluctantly and in anguish at the high cost, does what is necessary to keep us safe.

And we won’t see a brave young liberal senator, Obama-like, barnstorming the Iowa precincts blasting a presidency for trampling our values with the shame of Guantánamo, wiretaps, intercepts, renditions, military tribunals, Predators, Iraq, etc. That motif just dissolved — or rather, it never really existed.

In short, all the fury, the vicious slander, the self-righteous outbursts, the impassioned speeches from the floor, the “I accuse” op-eds by the usual moralistic pundits — all that turned out to be solely about politics, nothing more.


6 posted on 05/20/2009 8:37:37 AM PDT by roses of sharon (NOTRE DAMIAN: ABORTION, YES WE CAN!)
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To: Trueblackman

Thanks for the heads up.


7 posted on 05/20/2009 8:37:54 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Trueblackman

Kick some ass.


8 posted on 05/20/2009 8:40:28 AM PDT by steve8714 (Modern liturgy; touchy, feely, inane.)
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To: Trueblackman
Rock On!!

Ask them if they'd like to take the Gitmo prisoners back to Iran and 'reform' them for The American President in an effort resolve this isssue.

You Know, like the Saudies with their citizen terrorists.

10 posted on 05/20/2009 8:53:47 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Trueblackman

obama’s reversal is merely another example of his morphing into GWB as he grows up. perhaps he’ll eventually turn into GWB should he ever mature...


11 posted on 05/20/2009 9:01:47 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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Good luck! Give 'em heck!

a little tidbit.

Judge says US can hold detainees indefinitely

The Judge is a Sept. 4, 2001 Bush appointee. ironic?

12 posted on 05/20/2009 9:03:15 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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TBM...

You will do well...

13 posted on 05/20/2009 9:03:37 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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Kevin, let them have it!


14 posted on 05/20/2009 9:08:18 AM PDT by A. Morgan (The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Trueblackman

Give ‘em heck man!


15 posted on 05/20/2009 11:12:43 AM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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