Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 05/17/2009 6:11:58 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
The so-called greenhouse effect of the atmosphere is commonly explained as followed: "The heating effect exerted by the atmosphere upon the Earth because certain trace gases in the atmosphere (water vapor, carbon dioxide, etc.) absorb and reemit infrared radiation. [...] The component that is radiated downward warms the Earth's surface more than would occur if only the direct sunlight were absorbed. The magnitude of this enhanced warming is the greenhouse effect. Earth's annual mean surface temperature of 15°C is 33°C higher as a result of the greenhouse effect ..."
The above definition is the accepted one by climate alarmists and climate realists alike and is the one that is referred to throughout this chapter. That definition is the "settled science" heralded by the UN IPCC. That definition is 100% wrong on all counts.
(Excerpt) Read more at rightsidenews.com ...
Again, we go back to the Earth Sciences graduates who couldn’t get a real science degree...so they got the basic general degree, with no real background in anything special.
Are you trying to tell us that we should not believe the annointed man of life himself, Gore?
Well, I never! gasp! choke! gasp...
How could you!
Look at a photo of earth from space. See all of the people polluting? Driving too big of cars? Having 65 foot yachts that get 1 MPG?
No, you don't because we are a speck on the planet. Enough time HAS gone by - it was MUCH warmer 2000 years ago, then the planet cooled, then warmed up again in the 1100’s, then we went into the ‘mini ice age’
My car, boat jet and addiction to refried beans did nothing to change the temperature of the planet.
If you disagree, perhaps you can see me in Montana flipping the ‘bird’ to those who want to take my money and freedom in the name of this junk science called global warming - or global cooling as that is what we were ‘fighting’ when the first earth day was celebrated.
I don't think the real issue is that man has "no effect" on the earth's atmosphere.
The issue is one of the "relative effect" of man vs nature.
Do the math. Man's effect is dwarfed by nature. The sheer volume of the atmosphere, area of the earth's surface, area of the surface of the atmosphere at the edge of space, and continuous energy input by the sun dwarf all of man's effects.
The models they cite as showing man changing the climate also show that if man stopped doing what he is doing, it would have a minuscule "correcting" effect. If that is the case, then it means our effect in causing the "anomaly" is also minuscule. Hence, the draconian actions recommended have an enormous price for minuscule effect. In other words, it is a bad deal.
Yes, the sun warms the ground, and the ground warms the air, but why doesn’t the earth just get hotter and hotter? It’s because the earth radiates into space. Greenhouse gases in the atmosphere absorb this radiation in the infrared range of the spectrum, and slow the rate at which the ground can radiate into space. From there it gets complicated!
Are they trying to say that the mean surface temperature SHOULD be -18°C? Because if this is the case that means that the earth's "normal" state would be an ice age.
They're saying it WOULD be that cold if the earth's atmosphere were transparent in the infrared. This would be based on a very simple model of the balance between absorbed solar radiation, and the temperature required to radiate the same amount of energy back into space.
You took NO position.
I took a very EXACT position to influence you into one position or another.
My position: The earth is cooler now than it has been at times in the last 2100 years. It is a fact, not conjecture.
Your reply?
Asinine at best. Apparently you do not like facts.
I'm still on my deck showing YOU the bird.
Please, for your OWN sake, study, learn and for your own best interests take a stand on FACTS.
How dare you get mad at me for pointing out the facts to you, is your last name Pelosi?
Ok you have a boat and refried beans and knowledge you get from hannity, and flip off imaginary passers by. Send a link with your “facts”, if you have one. It’s 105 in May where I am right now. Here’s a bird back to you. Make sure you put your beer down before sending birds.
Cover your plants!
Define environment. It's naive if you understand the size and scope of the earth and how small of a footprint humans have on it to think we can change the environment globally. There just ain't enough of us on the planet to have the same effect as termites or simple bacteria both of which outweigh us by hundreds or thousands to one, and they both produce 'greenhouse gasses.'
Yes, humans can foul a local area -- a very local area. But the entire planet??? Not a chance. There just ain't enough of us to do the job.
But bugs can do it which is the only reason we have a breathable atmosphere to begin with. Those little polluting suckers plus those tenacious green things we call grass and weeds and trees create the very air we breathe.
There is no doubt they other far more populous life forms have an effect on the environment, but if humans had to create the same atmosphere, we would be unable to do it. Their ain't enough of us to get the job done.
Actually this is a great article and I enjoyed it immensely.
Actually he took your comment exactly as I took it and your comments were not vague and they did take a position. Your remarks show who the not so smart person really is.
Man made global warming is a farce, a total ruse intended to separate people from as much of their money as politicians can grab by using fear tactics.
It has been on going for about 100 years, the fear tactic, last big fear tactic was global cooling and the oil is running out myths. Then came global warming and now we are headed into global cooling again.
The dimwits, and to a large degee the republicans, use fear to tax the sh** out of us and man made global warming is one of the biggest hoax's they have ever come up with. The MSM has aided and abetted them along with a sh** load of phony scientists eager for grant money.
Very true.
We can mathematically prove that man creates around 0.6 Deg C on the earth. We can mathematically prove every animal and insect creates. But there is no catastrophic warming in effect.
don't worry mefistofelerevised the sky isn't falling.
Here is a real simple video on this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjHLWwbN0SM
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