Posted on 05/16/2009 6:41:29 PM PDT by GSP.FAN
Now that Ben has had his final day at a west Omaha Catholic school, the 8-year-old gets to give away the last of his boy clothes — his school uniform — and live full time as the person inside: Katie
(Excerpt) Read more at omaha.com ...
My husband and I were both homeschooled, we’ve heard that nonsense about socialization for over two decades and that’s all it is, nonsense. Do you really want your kid socialized with kids like the one in this article?
Metmom, ping for the “another reason” list.
You have flexibility to participate in the activities you want your children to be involved in and you can manage the situation with better judgement.
Contrast with this story where the parents have no control of what dialogue occurs in the classroom about the sex-change subject. Too bad the school in this story is spending class time on preparing for "the change" - it would be better spent teaching math or science.
Oh, PLEASE! My little sister went through a phase, around the same age, where she said she was ‘meant to be a boy’ and wore my brother’s hand-me-downs quite frequently, although she didn’t have an objection to wearing the occasional dress or my distinctly feminine hand-me-downs. Guess what happened? Puberty started, her hormones kicked in, she started noticing boys and wanted them to start noticing her, and now she’s only a bit of a ‘tomboy’, and doesn’t identify as a boy or want to be one.
In my opinion, a kid doesn’t have a firm idea of ‘gender’ until they’ve reached puberty and their hormones start influencing them - until then, their idea of ‘gender’ is almost entirely based around arbitrary social constructs like ‘blue is for boys and pink is for girls’. What does an 8-year-old girl have that an 8-year-old boy doesn’t, beyond Hannah Montana stuff and dolls instead of Spiderman stuff and trucks? Parents who encourage things like allowing a toddler to ‘change their gender’ are only going to make their child terribly confused during at least their teenage and adult years.
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Good question.
Socialization. lol I used to laugh and say “if my son was any more socialized we’d never get around to doing school”. Art classes, tennis classes, church activities, book club, and the list could go on and on. Honestly if we had taken advantage of all the activities available we would never have gotten around to doing school.
He graduated from college last Sunday.
You do have a excellent point.
Maybe religious people bad future f*gs good.
The article is longer here a little more info..
http://www.beatricedailysun.com/articles/2009/05/17/ap-state-ne/d9887iqg3.txt
They know the path Katie faces is long, difficult and fraught with controversy. Some scientists say the approach they are taking amounts to child abuse. Other scientists say any other response would be abuse.
(It IS child abuse! An 8 year old is not capable of making disastrous decision like that. Where the hell are the ADULTS or PARENTS?)
What might seem like a drastic, life-altering decision for their child is in fact the culmination of years of words and deeds that convinced Katie's parents, extended family members and therapists of this: She is a girl born into a boy's body.
(The CHILD is only 8 years old! Kids are learning their ROLES at that age. What a screwed up world this is. THIS IS CHILD ABUSE in the most hideous way.)
What will the “parents” do when he tires of being a “girl” and wants to go back to being a “boy”?
Is THIS what a CHILD CENTERED upbringing is all about?
It sure looks that way to me!
CHILD CENTERED parenting!
Oh, PLEASE! My little sister went through a phase, around the same age, where she said she was ‘meant to be a boy’ and wore my brother’s hand-me-downs quite frequently, although she didn’t have an objection to wearing the occasional dress or my distinctly feminine hand-me-downs. Guess what happened? Puberty started, her hormones kicked in, she started noticing boys and wanted them to start noticing her, and now she’s only a bit of a ‘tomboy’, and doesn’t identify as a boy or want to be one.
In my opinion, a kid doesn’t have a firm idea of ‘gender’ until they’ve reached puberty and their hormones start influencing them - until then, their idea of ‘gender’ is almost entirely based around arbitrary social constructs like ‘blue is for boys and pink is for girls’. What does an 8-year-old girl have that an 8-year-old boy doesn’t, beyond Hannah Montana stuff and dolls instead of Spiderman stuff and trucks? Parents who encourage things like allowing a toddler to ‘change their gender’ are only going to make their child terribly confused during at least their teenage and adult years.
You are exactly right.
It is s time for parents to help kids understand their gender role. Some girls are “Tom Boys” but that doesn’t mean you change their gender. Some boys are more laid back and not the football type - that doesn’t mean you change their gender. What these “parents” did is horrendous!
Oh, PLEASE! My little sister went through a phase, around the same age, where she said she was ‘meant to be a boy’ and wore my brother’s hand-me-downs quite frequently, although she didn’t have an objection to wearing the occasional dress or my distinctly feminine hand-me-downs. Guess what happened? Puberty started, her hormones kicked in, she started noticing boys and wanted them to start noticing her, and now she’s only a bit of a ‘tomboy’, and doesn’t identify as a boy or want to be one.
In my opinion, a kid doesn’t have a firm idea of ‘gender’ until they’ve reached puberty and their hormones start influencing them - until then, their idea of ‘gender’ is almost entirely based around arbitrary social constructs like ‘blue is for boys and pink is for girls’. What does an 8-year-old girl have that an 8-year-old boy doesn’t, beyond Hannah Montana stuff and dolls instead of Spiderman stuff and trucks? Parents who encourage things like allowing a toddler to ‘change their gender’ are only going to make their child terribly confused during at least their teenage and adult years.
You are exactly right.
It is s time for parents to help kids understand their gender role. Some girls are “Tom Boys” but that doesn’t mean you change their gender. Some boys are more laid back and not the football type - that doesn’t mean you change their gender. What these “parents” did is horrendous!
They have a 2 page article that is subcription only goes into detail cannot post it,the kid is already on drugs that give him a feminine form and when he is 18 they will do the snip..
If you google i am a boy-girl says 8-year old ,you can find the article on another website that does not have to obey copywright issues..
This is a tragedy.
This child is alredy screwed up and those that are supposed to protect him are the ones betraying him the most.
Found it at DU:
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Plan to change schools follows dispute over First Communion dress
By Erin Grace
WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER
Now that Ben has had his final day at a west Omaha Catholic school, he gets to give away the last of his boy clothes — his school uniform — and live full time as the person inside: Katie.
This decision seems like a no-brainer for parents who at first presumed their prancing, pink-loving son who squirreled away cousins’ girl toys was gay. That was before he told them he had a girl heart, a girl soul and was, in fact, a girl.
A defining moment came when it was time for First Communion. Eight-yearold Ben declared he wouldn’t go if he had to wear a suit, and he pined for the white dress that girls wear. But neither his family nor church leaders thought it would be a good idea to introduce Ben as Katie in the Communion line. The church doesn’t want Ben to be Katie at the school at all.
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As young as age 2, Ben would use anything he could find to create long hair.
At Grandma Mary’s, it was old scarves. At home, he wore armchair covers and sweatpants around his head to mimic ponytails. He did this so often that his father caught himself hollering for Ben to “throw your hair down the steps” so he could get a full load in the washer.
At 3, Ben was a princess for Halloween, wearing a tiara.
When he turned 4, he told his mother, “I can’t wait to be a mommy and have babies.”
At age 5, Ben was taking girl toys to show-and-tell in kindergarten despite the razzing he got from some classmates.
He felt as deep a passion against boy things, including his penis. He asked when God was going to make it go away so he could get his girl parts. He began to urinate sitting down.
Ben’s mother raised the issue with the pediatrician, who told her Ben was going through a common stage. Kids often experiment and mimic the opposite gender. Ben’s mother persisted: This was no stage.
The pediatrician referred Ben to specialists. After a series of verbal and behavioral tests, the Boys Town specialists said Ben met all the criteria for gender identity disorder.
But they held off on a diagnosis. He was 5. And the disorder is rare.
The American Psychological Association says it is difficult to accurately estimate the prevalence of transgender people in Western countries. Current estimates of the prevalence of transsexualism are about 1 in 10,000 for males and 1 in 30,000 for females, the association says. The number of people in other transgender categories is unknown. Transgender is a broad term and generally applies to people who see themselves as the opposite gender.
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Gender Identity Disorder is the formal classification found in medical and psychiatric manuals.
There is no medical test, and Ben has yet to have a formal diagnosis.
Ben would have to meet certain criteria. He would have to show persistent and intense distress about being a boy and a desire to be a girl. He’d have to show a preoccupation with stereotypical female activities or a rejection of stereotypical male toys and activities.
He’d also have to show a persistent repudiation of his male anatomy.
And he had to have shown these behaviors for at least six months.
Ben’s mother, a lawyer, dived into research. She documented Ben’s words — even scribbling notes in the Wal-Mart parking lot — and saved his artwork.
On one piece, he drew himself with pigtails and blue bows. On another, he drew himself twice: once with long hair and labeled “the rile me is Katie.” For an assignment about household tasks, he wrote about folding his princess blankie.
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Of course the “parents” make themselves out to be “victims”.
This is outrageous!
Yes because we don’t want to hurt his/its self esteem. It is truly disgusting what “parents” can do to screw their children up.
If she goes to public school, it’s no guarantee that she will be able to socialize with people. All she’ll be able to do for sure is establish pecking order in a age restricted hierarchy.
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