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A tale of two snakes and why they were allowed to live (not political)
Austin American Statewsman ^ | 5.10.2009 | Mike Leggett

Posted on 05/11/2009 5:08:47 AM PDT by wolfcreek

THE HILL COUNTRY — This is a tale of two snakes, both rattlesnakes, crotalus atrox, and why they got to live.

One big reason they're still among the living is that they got lucky when they decided to crawl across the road as I was going by.

And although they acted somewhat differently — one was extremely shy and tried only to sneak away and hide; the other was slightly more aggressive and rattled as he slid into the rocks to disappear — neither of them wanted to bite anybody, and that saved their bacon.

(Excerpt) Read more at statesman.com ...


TOPICS: Education; Gardening; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: rattlers; snakes
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To: wolfcreek
I've heard about and seen some shows on Easterns. Seems they tend to be more aggressive and dangerous (mainly because they're larger and have more venom) than Western rattlers.

A few years back The Crocodile Hunter came to the US to play with our snakes. He was used to handling the more venomous but more docile Australian vipers. I had to laugh when he tried to get close to a huge Eastern Diamondback curled up on a stump. Couldn't even approach. Then it suddenly whipped backwards and went after the camera guy. The Croc Hunter's eyes were as big as saucers-- totally surprised, and they cut to a commercial. He was way out of his league and his experience.

21 posted on 05/11/2009 6:01:39 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus
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To: A Texan
I grabbed it, covered his head with a towel and then set it free.
I don't like killing snakes unless necessary.

*bless you*
same here...helps out if you actually look @ the snake.


22 posted on 05/11/2009 6:05:58 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (make no mistake...If you run a war by lawyers, you'll lose practically every time. :^)
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To: mikeus_maximus
"...they cut to a commercial."

LOL! Um, The Crocodile Hunter wasn't exactly a live broadcast. Crikey!

23 posted on 05/11/2009 6:07:55 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: mikeus_maximus
Gosh, I do miss Steve Irwin. The one that made me laugh the most was when he went to Africa to 'muck' about with a Black Mamba. Not only was he visibly shaking, but he was also visibly shaking (and from what he was saying, it was not the heat that was affecting him. He'd always wanted to handle a Mamba, but was so deathly afraid of them).

Easy to see why ...considering that they are the world's second longest venomous snake (up to 14 feet), is the world's fastest snake, one of the world's most aggressive snakes, has very toxic neurotoxic venom that it produces large volumes off, and when attacking will rear itself like a cobra (and large individuals can basically look you straight in the face). It was interesting to compare his handling of one with how he was handling the Australian Fierce Snake (on paper the most venomous snake) ...he once placed a Fierce Snake on his face, yet with a Mamba he was treating it like a live grenade.

Goes to show there is a big difference between the 'world's most venomous snake' on paper, and a snake that may not be as venomous as a Fierce Snake is, but will be FAR more likely to kill you (and anyways, in terms of venom toxicity, the Black Mamba is still extremely venomous, and is about 80 times more potent than a DiamondBack rattlesnake).

24 posted on 05/11/2009 6:09:26 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: wolfcreek

Ah, the little thing was shy and it moved across the road from the kids in the yard so no harm done. What an idiot. An hour later it could have moved back across to the yard and a kid would be in the hospital. The only good snake is a dead one.


25 posted on 05/11/2009 6:16:02 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: wolfcreek

Are you saying the Rattlesnakes in south Texas are Eastern Rattlers? I have seen some absolutely HUGE Rattlesnakes in S. Texas.


26 posted on 05/11/2009 6:22:00 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: wolfcreek

Yep; cute little hognose. They do act very dramatic, kind of funny. They’ll hood up and hiss and then roll over and play dead too. Very harmless.


27 posted on 05/11/2009 6:25:01 AM PDT by American72 (Sick of Liberals)
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To: mikeus_maximus
When I see a Ratttlesnake on the road I speed up and then put my brakes on as I run over it. You can be sure of a kill then.

Did I mention that I HATE SNAKES?

28 posted on 05/11/2009 6:29:28 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: wolfcreek

Non venomous snakes are welcome on our property as well. I have a very long (over 4 feet) black racer that suns on our porch occasionally. He just slithers off when we disturb him. The last rattler we saw was also at the edge of our porch. He went to meet his maker.

We don’t see too many rattlers or copperheads any more. They aren’t real fond of people activity, and tend to move on.

This week we are seeing box turtles on the move. They get moved out of the road by everybody around here if it is possible to stop. We just like them.


29 posted on 05/11/2009 6:35:46 AM PDT by Grammy
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To: skinkinthegrass
“helps out if you actually look @ the snake.”

Your completely right. Most people can't identify snakes and just kill them because they don't like them or they think they are dangerous. Not that I am some expert but where I grew up in Houston (I lived next to the woods and a creek) there were plenty of them so you learn pretty quick what is what. That and I earned my reptile Boy Scout merit badge so I got that going for me, which is good.

Unfortuantely I killed many a snake in my younger years but as I got older I learn to respect them. The only snake I will kill now without hesitation is a coral snake. Very poisonous and their pretty colors could draw a kids interest, well at least one did to me when I was a kid.

30 posted on 05/11/2009 6:36:53 AM PDT by A Texan (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: A Texan
Red and yellow kill a fella, red and black send him back. Remember that?

I live in Houston next to Buffalo Bayou and we have snakes but not as many as when we lived on Oyster Creek in Brazoria County. that is when I really started hating snakes because I raised 3 children there and every snake I saw was either a Copperhead, a Water Moccasin, a Ground Rattler or a Coral Snake. South Texas is where I learned to fear snakes.

31 posted on 05/11/2009 6:58:15 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Hatteras

I know— they left that part in during editing.


32 posted on 05/11/2009 7:00:41 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus
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To: Ditter
That adage has served me well. I have only come accross two Corals in my life, once when I was about 6 (I thought it was a cool looking worm) and once when I was about 18. The first one was killed by my dad, the second I did in myself.

I was raised in Spring, the creek near by was Spring Creek. Back in the ‘70’s and ‘80’s this area was beginning to be built out so development was displacing the snakes. My Dad killed 57 snakes the first summer in they house. I never saw a rattler out there but Copperheads and Water Moccasins were in abundance. Most of the parents killed any snake because of the kids, which I understand with the Coral, rattler, and WM but most snakes would rather flee than fight. Even the Copperhead is pretty much a wuss. The way I look at it now is as long as long as they don't endanger a kid then I am okay with with them. Hell they eat crickets and anything that can make those things shut up then I am a fan.

33 posted on 05/11/2009 7:25:11 AM PDT by A Texan (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: wolfcreek

I have tree snakes, garden snakes, bull snakes, I love them because they eat all those cute little mice and gophers and other pests but when it comes to rattlesnakes I’m with you, they will die if they come on my property and I see them.

My son’s girlfriend got bitten by one and her hospital bill was over 200K! There is no reason to let them live.


34 posted on 05/11/2009 9:01:13 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: spetznaz

Spetz,

Were you the guy who a few years ago posted a scenario of what would happen if a couple of mambas got loose in the U.S. and started recreating?

Scared the bejeepers out of me!


35 posted on 05/11/2009 9:42:11 AM PDT by mywholebodyisaweapon
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To: wolfcreek

Is that a hog-nosed snake? They are so cool (harmless) — in addition to puffing up like cobras, they rattle their tails in the leaves to sound like rattlers, even though they have no actual rattles. If that doesn’t work, they roll over on their backs and play dead (although if you turn them over, they roll over on their backs again to prove their REALLY dead.)

I have never seen one in the wild. I envy you.


36 posted on 05/11/2009 10:05:24 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: A Texan
I was the parent (mom) killing the snakes in the 60’s and 70’s on Oyster Creek. We built on land that had never been cleared before and the snakes were thick. I only remember seeing one chicken snake and did not kill it, only because it got away before I could get my shovel. I had to check the yard before the kids went out to play everytime. Only our dog was bitten on the nose by a copperhead, so I did good. Did I mention I HATE SNAKES?
37 posted on 05/11/2009 10:11:09 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Savage Beast

“8 or 10 inches? That would work out to about a 12 foot snake.


38 posted on 05/11/2009 11:12:02 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Ditter
If you follow your attitude to the logical end the gun grabbers are justified in taking away our 2nd amendment rights, simply because they hate guns. You have a phobis, it's nothing to brag about.

It makes a lot more sense to teach kids to be aware of dangers in the world than to attempt shielding them from reality. You will not be around to pave their way forever.

39 posted on 05/11/2009 11:19:22 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Maceman
That is an Eastern Hog-nosed. First time I've seen one and it was in my backyard last week.

We have a snake here in central Texas call a Puffing adder that performs all the stunts you mentioned + change color.

This Eastern also has a milky musk it shoot out it's rear.

I didn't like it around our dogs so I scooted it into a bucket (fairly docile) and took it down to our greenbelt along the river.

40 posted on 05/11/2009 12:05:32 PM PDT by wolfcreek ("unnamed "right-wing extremist")
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