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1 posted on 04/30/2009 4:26:51 AM PDT by gate2wire
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To: gate2wire

What would we do without you? I don’t have time to read all this material before work in the morning. (Busy just trying to keep up with the steeplechase season in MD/VA!) Thank you, from another Marylander.


2 posted on 04/30/2009 4:31:16 AM PDT by ottbmare (Ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Obama! (If you're old enough, you'll understand the reference))
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1. West Side Bernie (Bernstein), Stewart Elliot, 126, Kelly Breen, 30-1;
2. Musket Man (Yonaguska), Eibar Coa, 126, Derek Ryan, 20-1;
3. Mr. Hot Stuff (Tiznow), John Velazquez, 126, Eoin Harty, 30-1;
4. Advice (Chapel Royal), Rene Douglas, 126, Todd Pletcher, 30-1;
5. Hold Me Back (Giant's Causeway), Kent Desormeaux, 126, Bill Mott, 15-1;
6. Friesan Fire (A.P. Indy), Gabriel Saez, 126, Larry Jones, 5-1;
7. Papa Clem (Smart Strike), Rafael Bejarano, 126, Gary Stute, 20-1;
8. Mine That Bird (Birdstone), Calvin Borel, 126, Bennie Woolley, 50-1;
9. Join in the Dance (Sky Mesa), Chris DeCarlo, 126, Todd Pletcher, 50-1;
10. Regal Ransom (Distorted Humor), Alan Garcia, 126, Saeed bin Suroor, 30-1;
11. Chocolate Candy (Candy Ride [Arg]), Mike Smith, 126, Jerry Hollendorfer, 20-1;
12. General Quarters (Sky Mesa), Julien Leparoux, 126, Tom McCarthy, 20-1;
13. I Want Revenge (Stephen Got Even), Joe Talamo, 126, Jeff Mullins, 3-1;
14. Atomic Rain (Smart Strike), Joe Bravo, 126, Kelly Breen, 50-1;
15. Dunkirk (Unbridled's Song), Edgar Prado, 126, Todd Pletcher, 4-1;
16. Pioneerof the Nile (Empire Maker), Garrett Gomez, 126, Bob Baffert, 4-1;
17. Summer Bird (Birdstone), Chris Rosier, 126, Tim Ice, 50-1;
18. Nowhere to Hide (Vindication), Shaun Bridgmohan, 126, Nick Zito, 50-1;
19. Desert Party (Street Cry [Ire]), Ramon Dominguez, 126, Saeed bin Suroor, 15-1;
20. Flying Private (Fusaichi Pegasus), Robby Albarado, 126, D. Wayne Lukas, 50-1.
3 posted on 04/30/2009 4:31:20 AM PDT by gate2wire
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4 posted on 04/30/2009 4:32:18 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: gate2wire
Difficult race to choose three horses let alone one. I've been vacillating a lot, since my orig pick Old Fashioned, is out. But am going to stick with my next choice after Old Fashioned...Dunkirk.
Of course, I'll also have Pioneer of the Nile on the betting slip.
Gate2Wire, which horse is the big closer in this race?
7 posted on 04/30/2009 4:37:37 AM PDT by jla
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To: gate2wire

Do you know if any of these horses were raised in the Bluegrass area (near Lexington, KY)?


8 posted on 04/30/2009 4:37:59 AM PDT by Cedric
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bttt


19 posted on 04/30/2009 5:25:12 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (The worst of the pirates are in D.C. We must send them AND the permanent "staffers" back home.)
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To: gate2wire

bttt


20 posted on 04/30/2009 5:29:34 AM PDT by A Cyrenian
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To: ml/nj; SomeCallMeTim

Rain Forecast for Oaks, Derby

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/50529/rain-forecast-for-oaks-derby

Might have to use FF to win after all.


21 posted on 04/30/2009 5:49:23 AM PDT by gate2wire
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To: gate2wire

I am pleased to see such high MLs on the non-favorites
I’m sure lots will change as race time approaches and the REAL wagering happens: people will be looking for the one or two longshots who have a chance. Especially like the odds of Gen Quarters, West Side Bernie, Papa Clem, and thank you gate2wire, Summer Bird. There is both a LOT of speed AND an unusual quota of closers in this Derby, it’ll be interesting to see how many horses get “sent”, how many will “stay sent”, and how many will dice for tracking position as the race develops. None of these have gone this distance before, remember, so maybe a key consideration would be a horse who raced “evenly” and relatively up close against a hot pace in a mile and an eight race.THAT is a horse who could get out to an easier lead in the longer distance and run away with it. I saw a horse go off at 41-1 on Belmont Stakes day in the Victory Gallop year, in an earlier race. It was also the Belmont distance , this horse had never run it before , but this one race he won wire to wire. A pity I only had $10 on him,but I made $400 anyway. Jock was Shaun Bridgmohan.
Wish I could remember the horse’s name. This concept is also why BET TWICE won the Belmont years ago, wire to wire.


24 posted on 04/30/2009 7:01:43 AM PDT by supremedoctrine (The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity---Yeats)
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To: gate2wire

More:

WSJ http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124105949788771915.html#mod=todays_us_personal_journal

APRIL 30, 2009

Churchill Downs Workouts Can Reveal a Winner

Handicapping the Kentucky Derby requires an angle. One must look at the mountain, and decide where to drill the mine. The horses in Saturday’s 135th Derby are the best 3-year-old males making left turns on dirt. But they’ve proven this in different races, at different tracks, on different surfaces, against different fields. Commonality is the key to good handicapping, and at the Derby, it’s scarce.

Warming Up for the Roses

Here’s how the last five Kentucky Derby winners fared in their final pre-race workouts. Rank shows how the horse’s time compared to every other horse that ran that distance that day.
HORSE/YEAR DISTANCE (furlongs) TIME RANK
Big Brown (2008) 3 35.4 1/19
Street Sense (2007) 5 1:01 5/22
Barbaro (2006) 4 :46 1/41
Giacomo (2005) 6 1:11.8 *1/16
Smarty Jones (2004) 5 :58 1/34

*At Hollywood Park

But what have they all — or at least, most of them — done? They’ve had a workout at Churchill Downs.

The startling statistic is this: In the final workouts of the last five Derby winners, four of them ran the fastest time of all the horses working at that distance that day (known as a bullet). Three of the four did their final workout at Churchill — the lone exception was Giacomo’s workout at Hollywood Park.

So what does this tell us about this year’s field? In the last workouts of the horses in this year’s group, six have run bullets so far. Atomic Rain worked a bullet, but did it running elsewhere. Papa Clem got one but did it slowly. Friesan Fire worked a blazing bullet for trainer Larry Jones, in the fastest Derby workout since Mr. Jones worked Hard Spun in 2007. Look for the Fire at the front of the pack, and base your bet on whether or not you think he can hold the lead. That leaves Regal Ransom, Dunkirk and I Want Revenge. Any of the three is a good wager. The Count’s call: Regal Ransom is going to get loose out front with Friesan Fire and won’t stick. Dunkirk needs another race before he’s a solid bet. So that leaves I Want Revenge. Did you see him in the Wood Memorial? There’s your horse.
­Max WatmanPrinted in The Wall Street Journal, page D8


25 posted on 04/30/2009 7:24:41 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (The worst of the pirates are in D.C. We must send them AND the permanent "staffers" back home.)
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To: gate2wire; All
Click here for a list (and in-depth analysis) of the 2009 Kentucky Derby starters. KentuckyDerby.com is the official website of the KD.
Important: click on the *name* of the horse to access video and results/charts of their prior races.
http://www.kentuckyderby.com/2009/racing-information/contenders

*** Free (individual) Past Performances for ALL KD starters:
"Brisnet's weekly updated PDF past performance file of Kentucky Derby hopefuls"
(includes video for many prior races):
http://www.kentuckyderby.com/2009/racing-information/contender-pps

For more info at the site (http://www.kentuckyderby.com/), hover your mouse pointer/cursor over "Racing Information" and select from the drop-down menu.
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Countdown to the Crown (ESPN):
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/horse/triplecrown09/index
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National Thoroughbred Racing Association (NTRA):
(Free official Past Performances for many of the big stake races)
http://www.ntra.com/

29 posted on 04/30/2009 10:07:34 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: gate2wire

Well, let me see here...

The favorite scratches on the day of the race, and then a 50-1 horse wins the race.

Somewhere, the odds makers heads are exploding at a awesome rate.

Just a guess.


53 posted on 05/02/2009 4:39:06 PM PDT by alarm rider (Any country that tells you what light bulb to use is not a free country.)
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