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Deputies: Horse Beaten with Sledgehammer, Remains Fed to Dogs
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Posted on 04/20/2009 11:55:12 AM PDT by Chet 99

By Matt Guillermo, KESQ.com Digital Content Director mguillermo@kesq.com

ANZA - A man who told authorities his horse was attacked by dogs was arrested after deputies found that the horse, instead, was beaten with a sledgehammer.

According to the Riverside County Sheriff's Department, the horse's owner, Jack Ziniuk, called deputies Sunday afternoon to "put down" his horse, saying that it had been badly injured by attacking dogs and that it was suffering from seizures.

Deputies and, later, Animal Control officers investigating the horse found that it had been struck several times in the head with a sledgehammer and, then, decapitated with a chainsaw.

Deputies later located the chainsaw and sledgehammer allegedly used. Investigators also found the horse's head which had been used to feed the man's dogs.

Ziniuk, 64, was arrested for animal cruelty and booked into the Robert Presley Detention Center in Riverside. AddThis Social Bookmark Button


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: animalsarepeopletoo; dogs; horse
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To: Islaminaction

And you can’t post a logical reply, either.

Goodbye.


61 posted on 04/20/2009 12:35:25 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (When you're RuPaul posing as the wife of the president, you need all the make-up help you can get.)
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To: ElayneJ

I am completely saying that.

And yes, a rat and a horse are both animals that are fellow mammals. Are cattle not kind and loving, as well? I grew up on a farm and had horses, dogs, cats, rabbits, chickens, and more, so I know about taking care of animals but I also know animals are property that can be killed when needed.

The guy killed his horse and let his dogs eat it. Read the dang story. Or are you against animals eating animals, meaning you hate the entire animal kingdom for what has always been?


62 posted on 04/20/2009 12:35:44 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (When you're RuPaul posing as the wife of the president, you need all the make-up help you can get.)
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To: Chet 99
If I had to kill a horse, I think I’d be using a rifle/shotgun, not a freepin sledgehammer. But that’s just me.

I don't think this old guy was doing anything that he wanted to do, he was simply faced with a situation that overwhelmed him.

The horse was probably starving. He probably doesn't own a gun, and if he did and used it on the horse, they'd probably be charging him with a gun crime right now.

We all love horses. The fact is, horses cost a lot of money to take care of, and if your source of income has evaporated, there are no good solutions.

Slaughterhouses are a necessary evil, when it comes to horses.

What can you do with a horse who is thirty-something years old that you've owned for twenty and can barely walk anymore?

Even if you have a vet put it down, what in the heck are you going to do with the thousand-pound carcass?

You can't just take a shovel and dig a hole in your backyard.

63 posted on 04/20/2009 12:37:54 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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To: briarbey b

Scum of the earth. Never trust a person who will harm an animal. They will harm YOU without the blink of an eye. Thank God my mother taught us that.


64 posted on 04/20/2009 12:37:56 PM PDT by cubreporter (Rush Limbaugh - Truth, honesty and the American Way. Go Rush!!!)
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To: briarbey b

Scum of the earth. Never trust a person who will harm an animal. They will harm YOU without the blink of an eye. Thank God my mother taught us that.


65 posted on 04/20/2009 12:38:02 PM PDT by cubreporter (Rush Limbaugh - Truth, honesty and the American Way. Go Rush!!!)
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To: Islaminaction
You know, in spite of what your parents may have told you, Rover didn't really go to live on a farm...
66 posted on 04/20/2009 12:38:43 PM PDT by gridlock (Build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, he'll be warm the rest of his life.)
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To: Islaminaction
Bascially if you own an animal you can do what ever you want to it.

I'm afraid if you check the law in most cases you can do exactly that. Live stock are presumed to be expendable.If this horse actually had been attacked as the man said and was suffering and all the guy had was a sledge hammer that was the humane thing to do The same fate happens to thousands of baby seals every year.

67 posted on 04/20/2009 12:40:06 PM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: ConservativeMind

One more for the sake of comedy. I can’t post what I logically think of a person like you.


68 posted on 04/20/2009 12:41:35 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: ConservativeMind
Get real... Worry about aborted babies, instead.

God is love. Love one another. Love the animals God made. Treat all living things with respect, dignity and kindness. At least that's what I take from the Bible, among many many other things. I and many others have room in our hearts to grieve and fight for the right to life of unborn children. We also grieve and speak out against animal cruelty as well. Are you implying we shouldn't want justice for this horse killer? Or that we should only worry about what exactly you tell us to worry about?

Either way, your angry and intentionally confrontational attitude isn't likely to sway many to your argument here.
69 posted on 04/20/2009 12:42:52 PM PDT by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: gridlock

Gee this is very intelligent. lol!!

Lets go beat animals to death so we can feel like a big man.


70 posted on 04/20/2009 12:43:56 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: Islaminaction

You are making a lot of assumptions about the motivation of this horse owner. It just might be that he was being as humane as possible, under the circumstances.


71 posted on 04/20/2009 12:46:20 PM PDT by gridlock (Build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, he'll be warm the rest of his life.)
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To: ConservativeMind

The guy killed his horse and let his dogs eat it. Read the dang story. Or are you against animals eating animals, meaning you hate the entire animal kingdom for what has always been?


Yep, I read the story. Nice touch, accusing me of being against the entire animal kingdom. Let’s see, in the animal kingdom they don’t attack each other with sledge hammers or cut off each others’ heads. So that would be different, wouldn’t it?

Yes, horses and dogs are “fellow mammals.” Do you think we’re all equal? If not, do you think humans are a little higher on the ladder? I think we are. And because of that, I think we have the responsibility to be good caretakers, particularly of those animals that we nurture and care for and treat like pets. How cruel does someone have to be to beat a defenseless animal to death?

You may “own” an animal but that surelydoesn’t give you the right to abuse it. If humanity and compassion don’t kick in, then the laws need to. That’s what good laws are for - to protect the defenseless and the innocent from those who want to harm them.

Did this guy need to kill his horse? I really doubt it. But even if he did, he could have done it in a way that didn’t bring such suffering to the poor animal. He beat his horse with a sledge hammer! How can you support that?


72 posted on 04/20/2009 12:47:46 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: ConservativeMind

If he was trying to put the horse down to end its suffering (IF), then his action is somewhat understandable. He should still have found a more humane way to do it than beating it to death with a sledgehammer. Doing such a thing for any reason besides the desire to put the animal down should definitely be punished.

Ownership of an animal does not give a person a mandate to treat it as cruelly as they wish. God’s law requires us to act as good stewards of God’s creatures and treat animals humanely, and as others in this thread have pointed out, people who are cruel to animals typically have equally little regard for human life.

Is the slaughter of unborn humans a greater injustice? Of course. However, being outraged by one does not exclude being outraged by the other, and one can work for the cessation and punishment of both injustices. It’s not an either/or.


73 posted on 04/20/2009 12:47:49 PM PDT by Dan Middleton
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To: gridlock

Sorry, I wouldn’t judge him to make you happy.

Have a good one.


74 posted on 04/20/2009 12:49:22 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: ontap

A stray cat had “adopted” me while living in a boarding house at college. I rigged up a place for it under the stairs with straw, blanket, a light bulb heater for the winter, fed it, cleaned its home, etc. Lived with us for many months.

He got hit by a car and one of the other tenants boyfriends found it in our yard dying. They called the humane society and they said they couldn’t help. The boyfriend drove to his dad’s farm to get a gun, but in the time it took him to go and come back the cat had died.

I found out when I came home, and trying to hold back my tears was yelling at him - there’s a shovel RIGHT THERE! Why didn’t you just put him out of his misery!!??

And I am NOT of the opinion that just because an animal is someone’s property you can do ANYTHING you want with them. However, if this guy did as he said to dispatch the horse as quickly and as best as he was able - well, that is a different story.


75 posted on 04/20/2009 12:50:31 PM PDT by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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To: ConservativeMind

“The guy killed his horse and let his dogs eat it. Read the dang story. Or are you against animals eating animals, meaning you hate the entire animal kingdom for what has always been?”

It’s how he killed the horse that’s the problem for me. He used a sledgehammer. He had other options - use a firearm, call a DVM to have the horse put down, etc, etc.

If he wants to kill the horse, fine. But at least have the common sense to do it in a way that will spare the horse from possible suffering.


76 posted on 04/20/2009 12:51:38 PM PDT by Fury
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To: ElayneJ

Easy! that might be all he had!!


77 posted on 04/20/2009 12:52:52 PM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: gridlock
Now that horses can no longer be legally slaughtered, this sort of thing is becoming much more common.

It is? Maybe in your neck of the woods.......

78 posted on 04/20/2009 12:53:16 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This country isn't going to hell in a handbasket, it's riding shotgun on an Indy car....)
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To: ontap

“Easy! that might be all he had!!”

Weak. All it takes is a phone call to ask a neighbor for a firearm he can use...


79 posted on 04/20/2009 12:54:55 PM PDT by Fury
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To: ElayneJ; Dan Middleton

Before the invention of the captive bolt gun, using a sledgehammer was the standard way to kill a large animal like a horse or a cow. Other than a large-caliber gun, like a shotgun loaded with slugs, it really is the safest and most humane way to go. And, frankly, shooting a slug into a horse’s skull at close range might not be the smartest thing you can do.

You sure can’t reach around and cut it’s throat without stunning it first. The animal is a lot bigger and stronger than you, and can kill you as it is thrashing around. You have to stun it first. For centuries, the sledgehammer has been the right tool for that job. I know it is not pleasant, but that is the way it’s done.


80 posted on 04/20/2009 12:55:29 PM PDT by gridlock (Build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, he'll be warm the rest of his life.)
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