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Nazis and U.S. Politics..(FR repost from 1995)
Washington Times Letters To the Editor ^ | June 7, 1995 | Thomas Colton Ruthford

Posted on 04/18/2009 1:17:26 PM PDT by crazyshrink

Washington Times - Letter to the Editor 6/7/95 - Arlington Thomas Colton Ruthford

During the past several months in the American press, the Democrats have frequently denounced the Republicans as Nazis due to their attempts to control runaway federal spending. How very ironic. I remember the Nazis. Let me share a little about them and recall some of their exploits.

First of all, "Nazi" was gutter slang for the verb "to nationalize". The Bieder-Mienhoff gang gave themselves this moniker during their early struggles. The official title of the Nazi Party was "The National Socialist Workers Party of Germany". Hitler and the Brownshirts advocated the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, national resources, manufacturing, distribution and law enforcement.

Hitler came to power by turning the working class, unemployed, and academic elite against the conservative republic. After der fuhrer's election ceased being a political conspiracy and was transformed into a fashionable social phenomenon, party membership was especially popular with educators, bureaucrats, and the press. Being a Nazi was politically correct. They called themselves "The Children of the New Age of World Order" and looked down their noses at everyone else. As Hitler accrued more power, he referred to his critics as "The Dark Forces of Anarchy and Hatred". Anyone who questioned Nazi high-handedness in the German press was branded a "Conservative Reactionary". Joseph Goebbels, minister of communications, proclaimed a "New World Order".

The Nazi reign of terror began with false news reports on the Jews, Bohemians and Gypsies who were said to be arming themselves to overthrow the "New World Order" and Hitler demanded that all good people register their guns so that they wouldn't fall into the hands of "terrorists and madmen". Right wing fanatics of the "Old Order" who protested firearms registration were arrested by the S.S. and put in jail for "fomenting hatred against the Government of the German people".

Then the Reichstag (government building) was blown up and Hitler ram-rodded an "Emergency Anti-Terrorist Act" through Parliament that gave the Gestapo extraordinary powers. The leader then declared that for the well-being of the German people, all private firearms were to be confiscated by the Gestapo and the Wermotten (federal law enforcement and military). German citizens who refused to surrender their guns when the "jack-boots" (Gestapo) came calling, were murdered in their homes. By the way, the Gestapo were the federal marshals' service of the Third Reich. The S.W.A.T. team was invented and perfected by the Gestapo to break into the homes of the enemies of the German people.

When the Policia Bewakken, or local police, refused to take away guns from townsfolk, they themselves were disarmed and dragged out into the street and shot to death by the S.A. and the S.S. Those were Nazi versions of the B.A.T.F. and the F.B.I. When several local ministers spoke out against these atrocities, they were imprisoned and never seen again.

The Gestapo began to confiscate and seize the homes, businesses, bank accounts, and personal belongings of wealthy conservative citizes who had prospered in the old Republic. Pamphleteers who urged revolt against the Nazis were shot on site by national law enforcement and the military. Gypsies and Jews were detained and sent to labor camps. Mountain roads throughout central Europe were closed to prevent the escape of fugitives into the wilderness, and to prevent the movement and concealment of partisan resistance fighters.

Public schools rewrote history and Hitler youth groups taught the children to report their parents to their teachers for anti-Nazi remarks. Such parents disappeared. Pagan animism became the state religion of the Third Reich and Christians were widely condemned as "right wing fanatics".

Millions of books were burned first and then people. Millions of them burned in huge ovens after they were first gassed to death. Unmarried women were paid large sums of money to have babies out of wedlock and then given medals for it. Evil was declared as being good, and good was condemned as being evil. World Order was coming and the German people were going to be the "peacekeepers".

Yes, indeed, I remember the Nazis and they weren't Republicans, or "right wing", or "patriots" or "militias". They were Socialist monsters.

Thomas Colton Ruthford


TOPICS: History; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: cnn; democrats; germany; gestapo; goebbels; hitler; hitleryouth; myths; nazis; newworldorder; nwo; obama; reichstag; ruthford; sa; socialism; socialist; terrorism
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To: crazyshrink

Not to mention the fake war on drugs and backdoor support of cartels. They keep pumping the children with stuff coming up from Mexico that gels their brains.


21 posted on 04/18/2009 2:11:39 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: crazyshrink
Ooops, goofed the first post, sorry I am a conservative, darn proud of it, and will do what is necessary to protect my country from becoming a statist gov’t.

Hear, hear. Mark Levin's new book expand on this in great detail, from what I've been able to read so far

22 posted on 04/18/2009 2:11:53 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (I'd rather the world hate us then laugh at us)
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To: crazyshrink
Wow.

Pinging for debete reference.

23 posted on 04/18/2009 2:12:39 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: LucyT

Lol! Perfect : )


24 posted on 04/18/2009 2:16:05 PM PDT by katiekins1 (I Bow to No One)
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To: crazyshrink

You can’t disagree! LOL! (kidding)

You’re putting all under one umbrella. We’re both right, except you generalized my point.

Extreme Democrats preach “economic equality”. This is inherently Socialist.

Extreme Republicans are elitists, that are openly accepting nationalization of our industries for the purpose of dictating how the masses should live, regardless of “economic equality”. This is a Fascist concept.

As a FReeper posted in a thread yesterday, It’s important to understand the difference, because while both systems are ultimately Statist, the way each achieves their goals is fundamentally different. It allows us to expose the methods our adversaries are using more effectively, because we have historical models (i.e. Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini) from which to compare.


25 posted on 04/18/2009 2:17:28 PM PDT by prismsinc (A.K.A. "The Terminator"!)
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To: LucyT

Perfect.


26 posted on 04/18/2009 2:17:39 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Thanks!!

Haven’t had a chance to get Levin’s book yet. (Am seriously underemployed right now) Plan to get a copy though.

My thoughts on fighting statism is to cut off the $ they get thru taxes, fees, etc.

Create an undergound economy. Pay willing people in cash so as to avoid taxes on the transactions (at least partially in cash if necessary). Quit spending on unnecessary things and save). And on and on.


27 posted on 04/18/2009 2:19:03 PM PDT by crazyshrink (Barack Hussein Obama...... "The Rush to Communism")
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To: crazyshrink

One more thing. Don’t confuse “Anarchism” for “Libertarianism”. In an Anarchist model described by Marx, there is a Government, but it is rendered completely ineffective.

A Libertarian model is what you meant, because it is a system by which Government effectively executes few and necessary laws to ensure civility and the security of the people.


28 posted on 04/18/2009 2:25:21 PM PDT by prismsinc (A.K.A. "The Terminator"!)
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“Extreme Democrats preach “economic equality”. This is inherently Socialist.”

Those are “the words they use” not the goals they aspire to. This is the same as when they keep referring to the USA as a democracy...we are a republic...and there are huge differences.

Words to a democrap have very different meanings than they do to conservatives.


29 posted on 04/18/2009 2:26:07 PM PDT by crazyshrink (Barack Hussein Obama...... "The Rush to Communism")
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To: prismsinc
Extreme Republicans are elitists, that are openly accepting nationalization of our industries for the purpose of dictating how the masses should live, regardless of “economic equality”. This is a Fascist concept.

Personally, I consider what Obama's doing with GM as Fascist.

30 posted on 04/18/2009 2:28:23 PM PDT by nomodem
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To: prismsinc
"Extreme Republicans are elitists, that are openly accepting nationalization of our industries for the purpose of dictating how the masses should live, regardless of “economic equality”. This is a Fascist concept."

This is exactly why we have so-called Republicans like Romney backing the nationalization of healthcare. Large global businesses don't want to pay the good bennies any longer. Dems want it to have control of something. It's a match made in heaven...or hell.

We will all have inferior care to suite these fascists. Euro style euthanasia comes next and it's just a mathematical calculation to a pol with no moral base. Someone has to be eliminated to continue down the socialist path...who will it be?

31 posted on 04/18/2009 2:28:30 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: crazyshrink
Those are “the words they use” not the goals they aspire to

I'm fully aware of the fact that they are deceivers. It doesn't change the fact the concept is in fact Socialist.
32 posted on 04/18/2009 2:28:38 PM PDT by prismsinc (A.K.A. "The Terminator"!)
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To: crazyshrink
My thoughts on fighting statism is to cut off the $ they get thru taxes, fees, etc.

That could work, I wonder what they would resort to when cash runs out and they become desperate and start seeking out us "tax evaders" though.

No matter what happens I think we're gonna be in for a rough ride.

Levin's new book is very good, maybe I should get off of FR and get back into it :)

33 posted on 04/18/2009 2:28:57 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (I'd rather the world hate us then laugh at us)
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To: prismsinc

I guess my opinion on the definition is slightly different. My defintion of anarchism is that there is no central govt or other pro forma govt. Just people doing what they want within the parameters of their “tribes” social norms and standards. One could liken my intrepretation to the American Indian tribes. Each lived according to their own rules and accepted norms.


34 posted on 04/18/2009 2:30:09 PM PDT by crazyshrink (Barack Hussein Obama...... "The Rush to Communism")
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To: crazyshrink
"Sadly, the “extremists” have usurped that goal to the point that we now find ourselves at a crossroads."

Yes we have.

35 posted on 04/18/2009 2:33:52 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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Ping for use later.


36 posted on 04/18/2009 2:40:34 PM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: prismsinc

One man’s socialism is the next man’s communism is the next man’s fascism. There are no pure forms of “statism” or other gov’t types. It all depends on what the statists are able to “set up” and the history of the people’s being “governed”.

I agree with you that much of what we are experiencing today can be labeled socialistic. Other parts of it can be labeled communist, fascist, totalitarian, democratic, etc.

I always wondered why the so called communist countries behind the Iron Curtain called themselves (German Democratic Republic, Union of Soviet Social Republics, etc.)

They are different forms of statism.

What we need in our govt offices are statesmen. People who put the values and principles of the county’s founders at the forefront of their values. And yes, this too could be called statism.


37 posted on 04/18/2009 2:40:54 PM PDT by crazyshrink (Barack Hussein Obama...... "The Rush to Communism")
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“That could work, I wonder what they would resort to when cash runs out and they become desperate and start seeking out us “tax evaders” though.

I don’t see the upcoming “real battle” as some do (us vs the gov’t). My theory is that it will be us (conservatives, pro USA folks) against the “liberal nanny states dependants”.

Liberals will cast the blame on us and “send the army of dependants” after us. Did u hear of the nannystate marchers (approx 50K) marching in NYC demanding higher taxes on the wealthy or the ACORN bussed and paid for lackies sent to the AIG exec’s homes? Just the beginning of the real battle I am afraid.


38 posted on 04/18/2009 2:47:43 PM PDT by crazyshrink (Barack Hussein Obama...... "The Rush to Communism")
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To: LucyT
I like that the NAZI’s referred to themselves as “Children of the new world order”, sounds so Obamaish!
39 posted on 04/18/2009 2:56:37 PM PDT by stockpirate (The NAZI's called themselves - "The Children of the New Age of World Order")
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To: LucyT

Actuall we should call Obama’s followers Children of the new world order.


40 posted on 04/18/2009 2:57:40 PM PDT by stockpirate (The NAZI's called themselves - "The Children of the New Age of World Order")
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