Posted on 04/16/2009 7:52:34 PM PDT by DCBurgess58
Texas Governor Rick Perry used the big "S" word at a TEA party in Austin on the 15th of April. Secession, the act of a state withdrawing from the United States. His comment was not a serious suggestion, but rather an implied threat. A little red meat for an audience who are sick and tired of seeing a bloated Federal Government wringing tax dollars out of citizens and mortgaging our children's future. Not to mention destroying the promise of America.
He is talking to an audience of the disenfrachised. Common citizens who believe that if we are to continue on this road, the United States of America WILL FAIL. The greatest and noblest attempt at creating a government of the people, by the people and for the people, will be relegated to the trash heap of history as an unworkable concept. In truth our failure will be due to leftist policies, which altered our system of government and then killed it off under the ensuing mountain of debt caused by those policies.
Of course the Republicans don't get off scott free on this issue either. The Republican party has become a lost cause as an antidote to the leftward push of this country. The GOP may grumble their dissent from the left's policies but there seem to be no leftist policies which the Republican party will not eventually adapt to and accept. There is no line in the sand which the left is forbidden to cross. There are however, many lines in the sand drawn by the left which the Republicans are unable to cross once the territory has been ceded. These policy shifts are strictly a one-way street (to be fair to the Republicans, however, the left has masterfully manipulated the Judiciary, declaring their policies "legal" and positions contrary to their policies "illegal").
Quite frankly, our country is like a car heading down a freeway, headed for a brick wall somewhere off in the distance. The driver has no intention of slowing down or turning off the road. In the back seat, a skinny passenger on the left keeps commenting on how much he hates this old car and how much nicer it would be to have a new car. A fat guy in the middle of the back seat seems oblivious to what is going on as he listens to his MP3 player and stares at the scenery flying by. A skinny guy on the right side of the back seat tries to tell the driver to slow down and take an exit from the freeway. Each time the skinny guy in the rear right side tries to talk though, the guy in the front passenger seat (The Press), talks loudly over him, disagreeing, criticizing, asking the skinny guy on the left for his opinion and ultimately mocking the skinny guy on the right, so that no one will hear what he is actually saying (The press wants to have a shiny new car too).
As far as analogies go, the car heading for the brick wall pretty well sums up the path our country is taking for me. I feel like that skinny guy in the right rear seat. I am totally disenfranchised in the United States. My vote means nothing. I can't elect anyone who can stop the destruction of America. Those in power are either driving our country to ruin or doing nothing to stop it. Aside from Fox news, AM radio, and some of the internet, the press has been taken over by the political left, to the point where it is virtually impossible to get any news which is not tainted by the editorialists of the left.
Rick Perry's talk of secession got me to thinking that breaking apart the United States is probably the only way of saving it. Imagine if all the "red states" seceeded from the United States. We would finally be able to fix the problems in our home states by starting over. Go back to the original concept that the founding fathers intended. Modify the areas which have been exploted to our country's detriment.
We could clarify that in the freedom of religion, that we are a Judeo Christian nation and that other religion's are allowed only on a basis of our toleration and subject to banning (hey, if the Muslims can ban us, what the heck, plus we could shut down those cults like Scientology). We could enshrine that there is no seperation of chuch and state, only a ban on the government having an official state religon (like the Anglican church in England). We could limit the press, just a bit, with reasonable constrants on them being politicized, publishing classified information and eliminate their ability to use "unnamed" sources. We could fix the judicial system by limiting their function to being an advisor to the legislative and executive branches, not their overlord, with their primary function being reverted to criminal and civil trials. We could restore the concept of State's Rights and limit the Federal Government to enumerated functions only. We could secure our borders, to include keeping undesirable elements from our former union OUT. We could restore the promise and freedom that has been taken from us. Most of all, we could leave the States that chose not to seceed with their DEBT!
That’s interesting, thank you.
The constitutional convention would be a toughie. I guess there are too many counties for each to send a representative, but if you divide the place up by cities you’re going to get an over-representation of blue.
“After a few years Texas will be asked for aid by New York and California as the Libs drain the resources.”
No problem supplying aid to RUSA (Rump USA), since we’ll be a first-world country and can be generous.
...of course we would have the right to demand reforms in RUSA, such as climbing down in the sewer, picking up the Constitution, cleaning it off, reading it, and then following it.
I’m seeing either an armadillo hide, or a gold coin.
Amazing post, Bob.
The Republic of Texas Dollar should have as a minimum on it the following; Sam Houston, the Alamo, “redeemable for Gold Bullion”, blue bonnets, what else? An oil well?
“I read your well written post. It’s amazing we can use the word “secession” without the fear of being banned. That alone is a great step forward.
Your post didn’t have the Dallas C-Boy Cheerleader vs. Swedish Bikini team event....”
Thanks, and I didn’t use the word “secession” until yesterday...once we came out of the closet. I still can’t talk to my parents about it (they live in Blue States), but they claim to be tolerant and, hopefully, they’ll understand that I’m only supporting this to lead a happy life.
“Amazing post, Bob”
Thanks LEL, it was getting to be too much to keep to myself. I had to let the world know.
Dear Dept. of HLS.
We're out of the closet and we are legion....
I can see some major buyer’s remorse on that...
“Texas would have so much money from productive Constitution loving capitalistic citizens that it could buy New York, like the Louisiana Purchase.”
...but would we want it. It’s not like it’s virgin land, save for a few natives. The best approach is to set an example for them. Show them what freedom means. Perhaps Radio Free America could transmit from Lubbock (getting around their Fairness Doctrine). But it will be a long journey.
Nobody is talking about violence but you and your ilk. As far as what I think about your "heroic" GGGG father, you don't want to know what I am thinking.
Instead of talking secession, I think it would be more productive to talk about the individual States calling a Constitutional Convention.
“Article Five of the United States Constitution describes the process whereby the Constitution may be altered. Such amendments may be proposed...by a national convention assembled at the request of the legislatures of at least two-thirds of the several states. To become valid, amendments must then be ratified by either the legislatures of or ratifying conventions held in three-fourths of the several states, and may not deny any state its equal right to vote in the Senate without its consent.”
In past, the threat of the States calling a Constitutional Amendment was such that the US Congress had to agree to their demands, but for a single amendment.
But in this case, the Constitutional Convention would essentially be proposed to *disassemble* those parts of the federal government that were created without Constitutional authority—a much harder proposition.
All the interest groups would want to pressure the Convention to enshrine their particular program into the Constitution. Currently illegal things, like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and other government bloat. At the same time, there would be as much or more pressure to *remove* parts of the Bill of Rights, especially the 2nd Amendment.
The pressure would be so intense that the Constitutional Convention would almost have to meet in secret. And each and every thing they decided would have to be approved by 3/4ths of the States.
There is no practical way for the Constitutional Convention to be restricted to a limited process. The entire Constitution would therefore be up for grabs.
It is likely that many congressmen and senators would use every bit of power and influence at their command to become delegates to the convention, many of them determined to derail it in any way they could. States vary in how they would select their delegates, either by vote of their Legislature or by popular vote.
The political parties would also pull out all stops to become enshrined in the Constitution as well. Because they are to a great extent responsible for the problems we have today, they are in no hurry to have their power diminished, or the political playing field leveled for other parties.
“I would probably join my GGGGgrandfather in fighting to preserve the Union.”
In other words, you would join the Communists/Socialists/Muslims etc. to go out and try and kill the traditional Americans who only want to get away from this scum.
“I do believe that states should have more autonomy, but secession? No. I love America. Let’s fix it, not kill it. I would probably join my GGGG grandfather in fighting to preserve the Union.”
Heck, I love this country too...as it was (rather than as it should be) would have even been ok with me. But the country my kids are about to get will be a debt-ridden miserable place...it has to happen, we cannot print trillions, shut down industry, and socialize a huge chunk of the economy, without a HUGE cost down the road. And they are DETERMINED to stay on this path. We are going to be Third World...and I really believe that is the goal of our President (that is who he and his people are...they cannot help it).
So, to me, it’s not America versus an independent Texas, rather its an independent Texas versus a third-world has been.
I think we ought to make a determined effort to get Texas to secede - so we can get these folks out of our hair for once and for all !
That is exactly what he is saying. I'm sure his Federal stormtrooper GGGG father would be proud.
We lived in Arlington for nearly 4 years in the 70s. Both my sons were born in Texas. Loved it there. Would go back in a minute — especially if the Big S happens.
After losing his 3rd run for Congress, Tennessean Davey Crockett delivered the shortest concession speech in history: “Ya’ll can go to hell. I’m going to Texas.” We all know what happened at the Alamo.
Something equally momentous happened at the Alamo on April 15th, 2009
While that earlier action was a tragedy, THAT battle set the stage for the success at San Jacinto a bit later and the Republic of Texas was on the way.
Might I suggest that the next rally take place at the San Jacinto Monument — after Texas tells Washington to “go to hell.”
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