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BBC looking for answers to help Obama: - How can pirates be stopped? ( Have Your Say)
BBC ^ | Thursday, 9 April, 2009, 07:43 GMT 08:43 UK | BBC readers

Posted on 04/11/2009 2:57:30 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

How can pirates be stopped?

A second US-owned vessel with 16 on board is hijacked, reports say, as a standoff continues over a US captain taken hostage. How can the pirates be defeated?

The Somali pirates holding US Captain Richard Phillips hostage have warned that the use of force to rescue him could result in "disaster".

The US seaman was taken hostage on Wednesday after pirates hijacked his ship, the Maersk Alabama, as it sailed towards the Kenyan port of Mombasa carrying food aid.

Pirate attacks have been increasing rapidly in recent years - more than 130 incidents were reported in 2008, which has cost the world an estimated $60 - 70m.

How can one of the world's most important shipping lanes be protected? What's the long-term solution to the problem?

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: obama; pirates; somali; somalipirates
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To: PapaBear3625

“The majority opinion on the site is that military force should be used against the pirates. I think the Western world is stating to get fed up.”

Not a chance.

The world is all for action until you take it. Then there will be the cries that it was disproportionate, ill advised, that enough negotiation didn’t take place first... etc.

The majority of the Western world is weak, and deserves what is coming their way. Unfortunately for you and me, we’re going to get caught in the storm.


21 posted on 04/11/2009 3:22:24 PM PDT by brownsfan (Kool aid comes in two new flavors: Hope and Change.)
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To: bill1952
How can pirates be stopped?

Kill them.

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Absolutely right.

22 posted on 04/11/2009 3:24:12 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Take out every ship, dingy, and boat on their coast, and every
ship that crosses into their waters.
23 posted on 04/11/2009 3:26:16 PM PDT by MaxMax (RINO=RAT!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Geez, what is this issue....? Is everyone dumb and Dumber ?

Its like the 911 hijacking...rules of engagement in effect during the hijacking, were co-operate with the Hijackers.

Rules of engagement for the Military in the Pirate Hijacking/kidnapping....ARE.....do nothing if someones life is in Danger.

We need change....or at least hope of change in the Rules of engagement. When the Captain jumped in the Water, and tried to Swim away, how come the Boat people were not plastered with ammo ? The captain is not in the Boat, blast the Boat.

I know why, the rules of engagement and the current commander in chief doesn’t want Dead Somailis floating in the Ocean.


24 posted on 04/11/2009 3:33:50 PM PDT by 4Speed
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Little Obama Pirate suggests,

ARRRRRRRugula


25 posted on 04/11/2009 3:34:41 PM PDT by edzo4 (NoBama 2012)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The only good pirate is a dead pirate.


26 posted on 04/11/2009 3:56:35 PM PDT by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: 4Speed
Anyone remember the rules of engagement in the Mediterranean when the worst president (up until Zerobama, that is) in my lifetime, Jimmie Carter, was president? The aircraft of the Sixth Fleet were continually harassed by Libyan MIGs, despite operating well off the coast of Libya over international waters. The idiot Carter had issued rules of engagement that required our US Navy planes not to engage, but to turn tail and run when challenged by the Libyans. The Libyans got more brazen and would come up and fire a few rounds every chance they got.

That all changed when Ronald Reagan was inaugurated. He issued new rules of engagement: if threatened and fired upon, blow the enemy aircraft out of the sky. The next time the Libyans came up to challenge Sixth Fleet aircraft they lost about half a dozen aircraft, and their harassment suddenly stopped.

27 posted on 04/11/2009 4:07:33 PM PDT by RightWingConspirator (Impeach Zerobama and send him home to Kenya!)
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To: 4Speed
...the current commander in chief doesn’t want Dead Somailis floating in the Ocean.

Fine. Put enough lead in them and they'll sink.

28 posted on 04/11/2009 4:09:00 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Nuke the site from orbit (It’s the only way to be sure)


29 posted on 04/11/2009 4:18:31 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Obama decision of the week. To order in Pizza)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Sheesh. You would think that the civilized world has forgotten EVERYTHING!

You do not stop pirates by looking for them on the high seas. That is a fools errand akin to searching for individual ants in the Amazon jungle.

You attack and wipe out their pirate ports, their sanctuaries. Pirates can only flourish when they have safe havens to sell goods, purchase fuel, arm up, buy and refit ships etc.

Destroy the pirate harbors, the pirates disappear. The West knew this 300 years ago. It is the only solution.

The rest is a joke, like attacking an ant nest in a neighbor’s yard by attacking individual ants in your yard with an ice pick.


30 posted on 04/11/2009 4:22:20 PM PDT by Travis McGee ("Foreign Enemies And Traitors" has gone to the printer.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Exchange the Ship Captain for three Domestic Enemies: (1)Commissar B.O., (2) Senator DUD (D-CT) and (3) Barney Fwank!


31 posted on 04/11/2009 4:42:05 PM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ask Jimmy Carter.


32 posted on 04/11/2009 4:46:40 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Call in the UN security council.

Denounce the US for Somali poverty.

Raise taxes on US churches.

Have a die in against Global Warming.

Yes - there are thousands of solutions in Obama’s America. :)


33 posted on 04/11/2009 4:48:38 PM PDT by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

First, get the Navy up close & personal with the pirates - close enough - a few yards - to take them out instantly if the hostage is hurt or killed. The Navy accomplishes nothing by staying too far away for effective action, and with only one hostage the pirates actually have very little bargaining power.

Then tell them that the game is over - they can surrender or be shot where they stand, one by one, and at this range the Navy will NOT miss. The pirates seem to have AK-47’s, and might have RPG’s and pistols, but they do NOT outgun the Navy.


34 posted on 04/11/2009 5:33:11 PM PDT by MainFrame65 (The US Senate: World's greatest PREVARICATIVE body!.)
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To: freedumb2003
Attack the pirate’s homes. It should be easy to track them down — they are the only rich people in Somali.

That's what I've been saying for days, show them satellite video of their homes and give them 15 minutes to turn over the captain.

35 posted on 04/11/2009 5:35:14 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hell, GIVE THEM the $2 million and then blow them and the money up before then can do anything; then the Treasury can just print some more money, that seems to be their forte these days.


36 posted on 04/11/2009 5:38:03 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Napalm.


37 posted on 04/11/2009 6:03:54 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: wagglebee

Actually not a bad idea, it would be legitimate to get currency replaced if it is known to be destroyed, zero economic effect (same as the way worn out currency is destroyed and replaced).


38 posted on 04/11/2009 6:08:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: wagglebee

Ya know, why wasn’t something cloak and dagger done with those radios that were passed to the pirates. Upon signal (so, if it can be avoided, we don’t do it to the captain) they spritz a shot of some slow acting immobilization agent into the holder’s hand.

I’m sure a James Bond could come up with other stuff. Why the heck is the FBI involved anyhow, why not the CIA?


39 posted on 04/11/2009 6:12:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Exactly, I can’t see why it would be a problem. Even if we don’t actually destroy the money, we just need to SAY we did (an extra $2 million in circulation is a non-issue) and nobody will give it another thought as long as the pirates are dead.


40 posted on 04/11/2009 6:12:45 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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