Posted on 03/14/2009 7:48:20 AM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
Something similar occurs when we read about the "partisans" behind German lines in Poland and Soviet territory, despite them being painted today as heroic figures for many people they were nothing more than bandits killing and stealing according to their own ideologies.
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Not many of the poor were writing manuscripts is my guess.
‘a terrorist if you like’
No he wasn’t a terrorist if you like. Kinda how we have transformed the word of terrorism this day in the WOT mantra.
Nothing wrong to be anti-establishment. That’s how America was created.
As others have said, this is hardly surprising. My understanding of the Friar Tuck character is that he is unusual — a “goodly friar” who does not adhere to the corrupt expectations of the local bishop. The Tax collectors, the abbots, the aristocracy — these people were oppressing the poor. Of course manuscripts kept by these people would be against Robin Hood.
There’s a certain aura surrounding old Latin manuscripts that confers instant credibility. However, this is likely representative of the opinion of the very people Robin Hood opposed. So, it’s not surprising at all, and doesn’t change anything regarding the legend.
At least it’s difficult to deny that there actually was such an historical figure anymore.
>>> Something similar occurs when we read about the “partisans” behind German lines in Poland and Soviet territory, despite them being painted today as heroic figures for many people they were nothing more than bandits killing and stealing according to their own ideologies. <<<
Yes. how dare those Polish and other “partisans” go behind “enemy” lines and kill those poor, unsuspecting “Germans.” How can we paint these murderers as heroes when all they did was kill Wehrmacht soldiers who were busy collecting flowers and making slivovitz for their Polish and other slavic friends? And ALL because the Germans didn’t follow the same ideology! Shameless!
Of course this is made public now. There is a pretender on our throne who is taking all sorts of powers to himself and laying confiscatory taxes on the people. It is certainly not desirous that someone who fights against such tyranny is seen as “good”.
I know, I know, Robin Hood was in England, Caligula is in DC. This is just a coincidence.
Is not story really a bit different? Prince John usurps King Richard's throne, while Richard is off fighting against the warlords of islam, and with the Sheriff of Nottingham rules tyrannically, using the power of government to steal from everyone and give to themselves. Robin and his band, and the peasants (Saxons) are being systematically starved to death by the Normans. They resist the government, and they take back what is theirs and distribute it to the oppressed Saxon peasants while waiting for King Richard to return from the Crusades to make the government right.
That does not quite sound like a socialist who is "stealing from the rich to give to the poor". He is resisting tyranny.
Calm down fella, I couldn’t agree more that any Pole who fought Germans in Nazi occupied territory was perfectly entitled to do so, my point is however that it wasn’t just Germans who were on the receiving end of partisan activities many ordinary people who wanted no truck with the Nazis but who just as importantly wanted nothing to do with Soviet backed Communists either were often victims of the partisans.
Try reading a bit of history before you fly off the handle.
If King John was in charge he would almost certainly have branded Hood as a terrorist, after all he was attacking civilian targets in order to change the current political regime.
That is why I deliberately used the term, I agree that “terrorist” is a much abused term but in the context of King John’s England it would have been accurate.
And yes, if any secessionist attacked civilians in their campaign to break the link with Britain during the American War of Independence then the government in London would have indeed branded them as terrorists.
It’s not my fault if the word “terrorist” is often used out of context especially in Iraq and Afghanistan.
>>> That does not quite sound like a socialist who is “stealing from the rich to give to the poor”. He is resisting tyranny. <<<
Which may be the reason why a UK paper wants to present him in a negative light. Don’t want the little laddies to get any foolish ideas about resisting tyranny, don’t ya know. Not to mention the fact that Robin and his Merry Men used swords, which are like very long and sharp knives. And all law-abiding Britons should know that knives are very dangerous, and their ownership should be strictly regulated by the Crown!
If the late Pope was involved in killing unarmed civilians who didn’t agree with his political viewpoint then yes but of course he never did so therefore your point is fatuous.
No, like the recently canonised-by-Hollywood Bielski brothers, whose defence of Jews is considered sufficient exoneration for their documented war crimes.
That was the group I had in mind when I made my post, they as Polish Jews were of course absolutely entitled to kill as many godammed Nazis as they could and good luck to them, they were not however entitled to ally themselves with Soviet occupiers in killing and robbing their fellow Poles.
Your problem is that you painted a VERY broad picture by implying that ALL Polish resistance were nothing more than common criminals, which is so far from the truth as to be laughable if it weren’t so pathetic.
This is interesting.
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